My suggestion is for all axis to quit Normandy campaign. There is no effective anti tank weaponry against long range tanks. I could suicide bomb in a ju88 but that’s stupid, no thanks. The 50mm pak can’t deal with the jumbo. Sturmpistole is worst, and the only option is run up to the tank with a pack while the bots aimbot you through trees. Not fun
waiting for “expert” to say “aim for gun port, flank them, or hit their side armor”
Here’s the deal, the stuart can take all 6 shots from the sturmpistole, it’s fast as hell and has an even faster rate of fire. So technically, it’s more annoying then the Jumbo. It’s tiny barrel makes it look like an annnoying clown. I quit
I am not in favor of removing the campaign, it seems to me the most beautiful of all, the colors are vivid and vibrant and the maps are not pure mud and debris, the maps are mostly fine, that is in terms of unit balancing , weapons, vehicles, etc … sucks.
Bye, then. hope you have some fun in other game
Leave already troll …
well do you just run into a wall or do you go around?
theirs chance they add bazookas in game.
bazookas were confirmed same with sturmgeweher for normandy
Maybe, that feels frustrating for you.
Believe me, storming the beach seeing the german tanks sitting like fat ducks in the rear line, destroying everything is not funny either.
This is how it is … i think you got it … don’t listen this American players that tells you that its BaLaNcEd … right now i don’t play Normandy at all because it’s very biased … but it will change, i m LvL 25 Germany so it wasn’t always like that, it would change one time …
ok let’s say the germany gets panther D, D model would be more plausible, would you want panther D removed because balance since all american tanks currently in game can’t touch panther frontally
depends on situation
I run into wall for protection
I run around it to pass it
I destroy it if possible
I run into wall to jump over it
why is this relevant with the topic?
I kinda know what you going to say so here’s the answer. Pz4 isn’t equal to jumbo, that’s obvious. pz4 or German in general need to struggle so much to kill it while jumbo whack everything easily except plane obviously, it’s about the balance
then tiger, both cant kill each other frontally
btw tiger H1, panther D, and jumbo all has the same BR in war thunder which mean these 3 are equal. just saying
i want you to pretend jumbo is that wall, you obviously can’t just run into it so you have to go around it
also no tiger 1 still has to aim for the same weak, it’s panther that doesn’t have to. also the BR system itself is a mess with such good tanks like leo 1 is at 7,3 and the german patton is lower than the american/chinese one while being objectively better
yup jumbo is literally a wall, a wall that can move, can kill you, and indestructible
yup I was right, read this
run around it while they keep firing me and keeping their frontal armor facing me or meet some infantry that bringing PIAT or TNT in the way then get killed. truly a perfect strategy
I said it
I explain it longer, if panther can lolpen jumbo frontal armor while jumbo cant do the same then it’s unbalanced therefore panther D isn’t fit for the role but tiger does because tiger can’t penetrate jumbo frontally and jumbo also can’t penetrate tiger frontally thus it’s balanced. also, while jumbo has weak spot in the gun port tiger has it too in the cheek it’s just as tricky as jumbo gun port
jumbo is a wall and that’s it, it has terrible AP rounds that pen 91mm of armor at a strike angle of 0 degrees while the germans get APHE with the weakest APHE shell on cannons that isn’t meant for infantry support is found on puma with 106mm of pen.
except jumbo can’t really wack everything, yeah it can do well against infantry and puma but jumbo does struggle against tanks because of the mentioned AP shells that can’t create spall.
again jumbo only has 91mm of pen not to mention the issues of the other tanks like m4a2, m8, and m5 which all can’t penetrate tiger frontally as well. so instead of adding something and creating a whole new set of problems we make the 4H into a pseudo heavy tank by giving it track armor forcing jumbo aim at weak spots as well
Anyone debating whether this game is worth the time should know that Normandy invasion isn’t competitive, it’s a joke. Beaches shouldn’t give such advantages but in this game they seriously do, speaking from the allied tanks that can barely be killed by infantry.
The Jumbo can be killed by a flanking tank, but since the allies are attacking, flanking is a suicide mission. If you succeed, another Jumbo spawns again. You’ll be killed by allied infantry PIAT or John Rambo. By the way, trying to shoot through the Jumbo gun port at long range is like supreme archery. At close range it’s crazy because certain terrain makes the gun aim shake and shudder.
Then there’s the unattractive looking Stuart sitting in a capture zone while the German fails to damage it significantly with the Sturm pistol. So it runs laps around the Germans at 30mph. At that point, I rather use my explosion pack in the fully reddened capture zone.
Like I said earlier, the Stuart is actually more annoying as it’s faster and isn’t as threatened by axis infantry. Obviously it’s not competitive.
The only people who defend the Jumbo and lackluster German AT capabilities are the allied players who think it’s “cool” to be in a big fat tank that is almost invincible. I like to think it gives them a hard on. I’d like to have a hard on too, but I guess I can’t since my Wehrbuddies can’t hold a beach head.
Let’s say you climb a mountain to set up the perfect 50mm AT gun. It fails because at long range the 50mm can’t scratch the Jumbo from the side. Even if you have brush cover, the allies can easily see you. If you build it too close, an a20g will take care of you. So AT guns are not an option.
The allied tanks are free to bombard/kill bunkers and reinforcements. Therefore I will make my exit.
One thing I forgot to mention is the 75mm allied tank that has like a 2 sec reload, boy that’s a serious hard on.
I will don’t argue with you, i dont say that Jumbo need to be removed, i said that it will change, i believe they do something to really balance Normandy. For example they could add better tank or new anti tank something.
You didn’t understand me, but I understand you’re a sensitive topic. But its OK. Game is under development, these arguments are normal thing that people try to discuss. In my opinion Jumbo its OK i play americans too (it is little bit OP, like CAS) but is more like temporary problem … i believe they solve the balance issues