Don’t understand why you choose to include a limited weapon when in reference to tech tree as those have always broke rules
Its hard to compare because it doesn’t exist par from japan which also get to break rules.
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How do you guys have time to write and come up with all of these things? Are you like 80 years old and retired?
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We’re autistic.
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Sleep can wait, but the suggestions must keep rolling.
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I vote no, reason?, I prefeer it as event,battlepass or premium
At over half a million made, I can confidently say that no, it should not be anything but a tech tree item.
A front-gripless version could be a paratrooper squad, though.
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well, he has the right to have a wrong opinion.
Okay Im joking, but I agree that production numbers and availability should be related whenever possible.
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Great job with the post! I hope we see these weapons added to the game.
I would genuinely be surprised if the Sten Mk.V with 50 rounds at BR 3 would only have 6.6 damage. Since damage is a balance stat, it’s likely that if this suggestion was forwarded, they would increase the damage to 6.8 on release.
It would also be cool if they had the bayonet available!
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Yes, its true that developers play with damage to balance things but as far as I know, the Sten family has lower damage because they have lower initial muzzle velocity than normal 9mm guns (370 m/s intead of 400 m/s).
But devs will have final say on the matter anyway.
The credit goes to @OggeKing as he had set the bar quite high on quality.
I just kept reworking my part on his advice and I accidentally stalled the project for which he might or might not send my ass to Australia.
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Considering the track record around completing my own suggestions on time, I’m not one to complain. 
I still haven’t done my follow up on British cosmetics…
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@Valkay @OggeKing if you want to ensure this post gets forwarded, make sure to provide the source for the increased RoF of the Sten Mk.V. Specifically, the part of the source that actually shows the value, not just citation.
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The exact cause of the fire rate increase is not clear, most likely its the result of the fire control group´s redesign, after all the difference between 550 and 600 rpm is not very big.
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It’s a bit iffy since it isn’t from an archival document or an official handbook, but it beats nothing, nevertheless!
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Clarification on Valkay’s behalf: “Redesign” in this case means “moved forward”, as internal parts were still interchangeable with the Mk II.
It is assumed that this change is the cause of the increased RoF. It’s not solid, the best explenation for why we don’t have first hand fire trials is that it would likely have been superfluous to do so to a already proven design (the Mk II was not some unknown).
As opposed to the Patchett, which was a new development and thus had more dedicated testing, the only thing that needed to be established with the Sten Mk V was that 1, it remained parts compatible, and 2, remained fully functional without reliability issues.
The guns provably worked, that’s all that was needed for a temporary design… It’s important to remember that the British anticipated in short order that either they would adopt a Assault Rifle (in which case, they thought, would replace both the service rifle and the SMG), or adopt a entierly new SMG design (which became the Patchett descended L2 Sterling). As such, extensive trials and RoF clock tests would be superfluous for a already proven design intended for a short service life, as long as it did not excessively excede current numbers of the Mk II.
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These are often not available or may contain false propaganda information.
It is much better to rely on data of researchers that had access to both reading such documents and measuring the guns personally.
Tom Nelson is one the greatest firearm collector and researcher of all time and his book I quoted remains one of the best researched despite its age.
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My comment was entirely based on the developer’s standards as of the last year or so, which influenced changes to a bunch of the Japanese weapons, FG.42 I, AVS-36, Scotti Naval, MP.35 and MP.35/I, Charlton, and others.
“False propaganda information” and accuracy depends on what TYPE of archival document is referenced. Official reports for weapons considered for adoption, especially given their context, are good choices.
Now, I wont look into every case here, but most of these changes were driven by player demand and/or intention to make them better or at least more unique.
this was the source behind MP35 buff.
The only few examples when such documents were actually used were with Japanese SMGs since the US tests most books quote were very inaccurate. Most SMGs were destroyed after the war so rerunning the tests are also often of the question. That leaves us with Japanese source which were also probably not the most accurate, but definitely better than the US ones.
Anyway, the devs clearly never demanded the documents you mentioned nor ever looked at them themselves if they had to make these changes.
But, I got tired of beating it around the bush, lets ask our friendly helpers.
@Euthymia07-live @YuіHіbіki
are the sources of the suggestion satisfactory?
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It has a source, multiple even so it’s by default way better than 90% of weapon suggestions
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