The case for the M24 Chaffe's M61 APCBC, a nuanced comparison

So like again. Can you read? “When it comes to vehicles versus vehicles”. And yes the post pen damage isn’t consistent enough to aim for ammo unless it’s near the front of the tank so the best bet is to aim for gunner with uncapped solid shot. However the Chaffee rof a crosses an important threshold where tanks can get back their gunner have some time to acquire u and shoot you. The Chaffee has no armor to defend against this. Anything above a 37mm pens it with ease. This combination of bad reload, bad post pen, mid pen (only 11mm more than pz4 heat point blank, falls off to 7mm more at typical engagement range, awful against angles), and bad armor makes this one of the worst tanks in the game for tank on tank duels. And what does it get in return compared to panzer 4? Mobility and a commander mg. Mobility as you already said isn’t that valuable in enlisted and commander mg is only used in certain situations and can easily be supplemented by a smg. And the panzer 4 in return gets better armor, more ammo, double the rof.

So why can’t the Chaffee get apcbc?

Also heat has much better post pen than uncapped solid shot as the jet that shoots out is very consistent damage while the solid shot can just pass through ammo turning it yellow

The vehicle versus vehicle experience is very different in Enlisted. There is many other factors that WT doesn’t have.

So why not buff its rof? Since you claim buffing rof is more significant than giving APCBC and according to you it is one of the worst tank for tank duel. If it is super bad, it should get the better buff.

Cuz that also buffs its anti infantry capabilities which are adequate already. The only thing about the chafee that needs buffing beyond slightly greater ammo capacity is it’s tank on tank performance

And what is the problem of buffing its anti infantry capabilities? Many other ~75mm gun tank has faster reload than current chaffee stat so buffing it won’t make it OP.

Let me ask you this then: why would a quicker reload be more balanced than apcbc when apcbc only buffs its anti tank capabilities?

Because imo APCBC round buff more anti tank capabilities than quick reload.
Meanwhile the increased anti infantry capabilities for quick reload is not unbalanced since many other ~75mm gun tank has faster reload than Chaffee.

so based off that, m24 chaffee is currently weaker in anti infantry and weak in anti tank roles, correct? so why would making its tank capability very strong while keeping anti infantry as is be a bad idea?

Because I am talking about anti tank. Why are you diverging the topic by talking about infantry now? And it’s not like its anti infantry ability is bad enough to compensate for the good at ability.

ur the one suggesting to buff its anti infantry man not me

You are the one worry about anti infantry ability. Buffing the rof is because you say the low rof affects its at abilty.

sure: but it still has: bad armor, bad post pen, and mid pen.

and the apcbc option just makes more sense at it requires no changes compared to war thunder and its historically the round that the chaffee used in ww2. not m72 solid shot

I thought you said buff rof is way more significant buff? I already give you the better option but you are not satisfied?

They just need to change the number.

It’s not like Enlisted care much about HA.

That would make hitting the gunner a valid strat with chaffee… whereas apc just serves so you can one shot more.

I’m not agreeing with giving it played up fire rate either just saw a chance to answer

It would also increase its he capability which I think while weaker than all the tech tree ally tanks is still good as is.

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