T24 MG needs a balance pass

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The T24 Machine Gun currently lacks competitiveness compared to other nations and lacks a clear identity, especially considering its placement in Tier V. At this end-game level, where every other faction brings their absolute best weaponry, the T24, and the US LMG lineup in general, simply cannot compete due to a massive performance gap.

Its fire rate (DPS) is significantly lower than other factions’ Tier V equivalents, while its random spread and moving spread are either equal to or even wider than theirs.

USSR (Tier V): Excellent base accuracy, high rate of fire, and tight spread. Germany (Tier V): Extremely high rate of fire, highly visible/clean iron sights, and decent random/moving spread. Japan (Tier V): Incredibly high burst damage (firing two rounds per shot) combined with a solid fire rate. USA (Tier V): Regular tech tree LMGs at this tier are already quite underwhelming compared to other factions. While weapons like the Stinger or the Vickers K 100-round exist, these are event-exclusive. This creates an unfair disadvantage for new players or those who missed them due to real-life circumstances like military service (as was the case for myself). To make matters worse, the premium T24 has an excessively thick front sight post that blocks the target, while offering neither a competitive fire rate nor decent accuracy due to its terrible spread.

To make the T24 a viable and rewarding Tier V option, I suggest the following adjustments:

Moderately lower the random recoil and movement-induced spread of the T24 to make it competitive against other factions’ LMGs. Improve the sight picture by fixing the excessively thick front sight post to prevent it from completely blocking the target during sustained fire.

A machine gun with a lower fire rate should at least offer decent controllability or precision. However, the T24 currently suffers from both poor DPS and terrible accuracy due to the excessive spread, compounded by a restrictive sight picture.

At Tier V, there is absolutely no strategic reason for players, especially those without access to past event squads, to run this premium squad when every other nation has LMGs that excel in either raw fire rate, precision, or raw damage.

Fixing the over-tuned spread and the iron sights on the T24 wouldn’t make it overpowered; it would simply bring it up to a functional, competitive standard for Tier V matchmaking. I hope the development team looks into these values for the US Tier V LMG lineup, especially the premium T24.

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you get +100 RPM in exchange for marginally worse recoil control compared to the tech tree M1919A6

premium squads shouldn’t be “competitive” because thats literally P2W

It’s a light machine gun with a 100rnd belt dangling around, nobody should be able to bounce around and accurate spray with it, this applies to all machine guns like it

not event exclusive, they are obtainable in the silver loot box that sticks around 2 weeks after every major update

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  1. A mere +100 RPM increase is negligible when other weapons are spraying at 1000 to 1200 RPM. Plus, the sight picture is problematic. It’s essentially just an M1919A6 with an MG42-style skin that remains slow and inaccurate.

  2. The T24 shares the same issues as the US Tier V tech tree LMGs. Even with 50 more rounds, it performs worse than the German Tier IV Premium MG45 and MG42. Having 50 extra rounds means nothing if the terrible spread and obstructive sights prevent you from landing those shots before getting sent back to the spawn screen.

  3. I understand the argument that premiums shouldn’t be pay-to-win, but they shouldn’t be completely inferior either. If they are worse than free options, nobody will buy them. Developers aren’t running a charity. I am not asking for a P2W weapon, but rather a “sidegrade” which is a viable alternative that can actually hold its own at Tier V.

  4. To say these weapons aren’t “event-exclusive” is technically correct but practically dishonest. Getting a specific squad or weapon from silver loot boxes is pure RNG. You could burn through millions of silver collected over months and still end up with nothing but hammers. Arguing that it’s “obtainable” is like saying I’m a millionaire just because I could win the Powerball.

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It is pretty bad LMG for BR 5, mainly due to how low the RoF is.
With such low RoF(Apparently it’s historical and it was indeed that slow IRL as well), and couple of other shortcomings as you mentioned like bad iron sight pictures, high horizontal recoil for such low RoF, despite that with still severe LMG penalties etc that it should be BR 4 instead of BR 5. It is really bad compared to other BR 5 weapons and there’s zero reason to use this prem squad on BR 5.

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I believe fake/prototype stuff should not outperform stuff that was actually used in WW2

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I see where you’re coming from, and I agree that historical realism is important. That said, since the game already features so many strong prototype weapons, I just feel it is unfair to keep this specific squad at such a disadvantageous level.

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Thank you very much for your comment. You hit the nail on the head—this is precisely the point I wanted to make. I truly appreciate you putting it so clearly and supporting the discussion.

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“Although the T24 has a slow fire rate, this gun has far too many other problems. It’s slower in movement speed than the original MG42, and the shooting accuracy and sight shake while firing are absolutely terrible.”

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That is exactly how I feel as well. The movement speed penalty, poor accuracy, and excessive sight shake make it incredibly frustrating to use in actual combat. I truly appreciate your valuable input and support.

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Did you know that Darkflow themselves officially acknowledged that Enlisted is a weapons exhibition demo game? Haha

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Exactly! It was never meant to be a strict historical simulator. In fact, having all those rare prototypes and experimental weapons is exactly what makes the game so much fun. After all, if those unique weapons didn’t perform well, what would even be the point of using them?

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fixed

kind of applies to every faction, unless you are deliberately taking crappy guns on you.

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they have switched the “marketing” agenda quite few times.
How ever never heard them marketing this with that.

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When?

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Let’s google where T24 was used

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The Aberdeen proving grounds. For a little bit… before they discarded it.

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No.

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As someone who use this i feel like it spread is a bit high. I would be fine if most of my bullet can actually hit my enemy.

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Competitive doesn’t mean pay to win. Pull your head out. It’s an absolutely terrible gun that needs less recoil at the very least. Premmy squads should not offer a bad experience. Why spend money on that?

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  1. It hasn’t actually been fixed.

  2. It does NOT apply to every faction equally. Just look at the Tier V meta for other nations—they have definitive, top-tier LMGs that easily justify their slot, from premium variants to standard tech tree lines. Even Germany’s Tier IV premium MG squads are good enough to be highly viable at Tier V. Meanwhile, the T24 is completely outclassed in raw stats and fails to compete even with standard tech-tree MGs of other nations.

Why should a Tier V Premium squad be classified as one of those ‘crappy guns’ you wouldn’t deliberately take?

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Running anything but 9 man rifle squads at BR5 is deliberately taking a worse option.

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Then by your logic, it only leads to the conclusion that the T24 desperately needs a weapon buff and the premium squad needs an increased member count. If premium squads or any other squad types at Tier V are inherently a “worse option” compared to rifleman squads, and if running only rifleman squads is the correct meta, it clearly indicates a balancing issue that needs to be addressed. Other squad types should, at the very least, serve as a reasonable alternative. Thank you for pointing that out; it actually makes my argument much more persuasive.