T-44 for BR5

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nope

I honestly don’t think T-44-100 is better than King tiger. At best, it’s on par with it.

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And on par would be too much, but that’s for the discussion of whether the T-44-100 should be added or not. I just want the basic T-44 with at least a few APCR rounds.

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Tanks are the one thing Germany has the best of, it should remain that way.

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It wouldn’t be a much better upgrade to a classic T-34/85 – poorer mobility (because it is significantly wider => constantly getting stuck in some random rubble) and improved armor.
Armor that would still be more or less irrelevant, because on this BR, basically every squad can have someone with a pfaust 100. And tanks would shoot at its turret, not its hull.

I am not saying they shouldn’t add it. But they should add other tanks as well.

Perhaps if they decompressed BR5 and made a BR6 with it then the T-44 could be BR5 and the T-44-100 be BR6

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I’m sorry but I don’t get why people keep asking for the T-44

This is always the argument I see, “reload too slow so need t-44” but isn’t the obvious answer just to… buff the reload speed of the IS-2? Is there some funky gaijin coding that makes it not possible for them to do this or something? As far as I understand, the T-44 was a rare tank that saw little combat as you say here…

I’d rather not add more rare/prototype equipment in TT if it can be helped, especially when there’s an obvious solution. Is there some reason why buffing the IS-2 isn’t a viable solution?

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Buffing IS-2 in meaningful way would be totally ahistorical. The tank is literally known for its long reload time thanks to two piece ammunition. It’s always going to have huge disadvantage. And if not, it’s no longer going to be on par with historical realities. Not much different from prototypes

So what? Oppose to you, I would like to see more prototypes. Why should be your wants prioritized over mine?

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No thanks. If they release the T-44, there’ll be a bunch of whiny Wehraboos crying about not being able to penetrate it. When asked where they’re shooting, they’ll just bark “the front is too strong” and throw a tantrum.

The problem with the IS 100mm cannon is that it was even more of a prototype than the T44 100, the t44 100 at least evolved into the t54, and the IS100 is a dead-end branch of tank construction combining an unsuccessful hull and a cannon that was installed more out of curiosity than for practical reasons.

So the IS 100 should replace the SU 100 as the top premium squad for the Soviets.

But super pershing is better than the King Tiger

If we get the T-44-100 I only want it if it’s in the TT. Where it belongs, even if it’s the last tank in the line to unlock.

No objections to a BR IV version with a smaller gun as well, though that’s a hard argument to be had other then “well the 100 is BR V and would be overshadowed by the better gun” so I see little need.

The Super Pershing is not better than the King Tiger :joy:

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my experience suggests the opposite, super pershing is much more tenacious than King Tiger, in a tank duel these tanks have +- equal area with vulnerable areas, but only pershing shells instantly destroy it when piercing King Tiger, and King Tiger shells kill a maximum of 1-2 crew members and from a distance find vulnerable areas in The Pershing armor is more difficult than that of King Tiger due to the more complex shape of the Super Pershing armor.

Yeah I don’t know where you’re shooting, but in my experience King Tiger rounds one tap Super Pershings consistently, meanwhile the Super Pershing takes multiple shots through a King Tiger’s turret before the tank goes boom. Not to mention the Tiger 2 having a faster reload, better HE, and being much more resistant to enemy tanks. A Panzer IV can one shot a Super Pershing, but any allied tank that’s BR4 or lower is gonna struggle with a King Tiger.

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Honestly the regular Pershing performs better than the Super Pershing in my experience

As a word of warning, the WW2 prototype Centurions had a much thinner UFP (only 57mm iirc) so it’s going to be much weaker than what you probably expect.

That depends on your definition of “deployed and even saw service”. The Red Army technically did operate the T-44 during WW2, with several hundred having already been produced by the end of the war. However they delibrately kept them out of combat use due to things like logistical concerns. I’ve heard claims that they might had seen some limit combat trials in the Eastern Front and might had been deployed into Asia during the USSR’s attack against the Japanese but I don’t know if there’s any actual evidence towards that.

Not every single tank engagement is a close range brawl where infantry AT weapons are relevant, and being forced to aim at a tank’s turret weakpoints instead of being able to just mindlessly centre-of-mass them is absolutely not nothing.

I don’t know what experience made you believe this, but the Super Pershing is absolutely not better than the King Tiger. Not only is the SP’s UFP actually penetratable by the KT (with the reverse being not true), but the SP turret face’s weakspots are much larger. In addition, the SP’s cannon has a much slower reload speed than the KT’s. The SP has nothing going for it when going up against a KT.

I see your point but adding a T-44 into the tech tree would be more historical because…? I think i’d be better to have the IS-2 with an ahistorical reload speed for the sake of game balance than a prototype that saw little if any combat but we can agree to disagree.

Not what I said, I specifically said “in TT” which means “in the tech tree”, not that I didn’t want more in the game at all. Nice bad faith argument there

Also didn’t say that, neither did I even imply that my wants should be prioritized over yours or anyone else. Either you misunderstood what I was saying in my post or you need to take your meds.

Umm acktshually, the T-44 was not a prototype tank.

I really wish Soviets would get the T-44-100 but they need to be severely nerfed/equalized in the infantry department as well

Fedorov Avtomat is by large the best AR in the game, other nations should get an equivalent

Body armor is just insanely strong and should straight up be removed

Those 2 things and some nice vehicles for Soviets would make the game much better imo