Are there any plans to stop this unsportsman-like behaviour of cycling between 3 or more plane squads, suicide dropping the living hell out of the attacking team? You dont lose anything as a defender, its an almost guaranteed win, its extremely annoying for the victim of such practice. Ofc you can build AA and farm those planes, you will never be able to really prevent the drop tho since AA sucks and you just clip the plane to get the kill when he crashes.
I fully understand those people are well paying customers since they bought their additional vehicle slots but for the rest of us it feels like beeing an NPC for the sake of the “fun” of those people exploiting a rigged system
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I think the biggest issue is that once you spawn a plane you can’t de-spawn it. Unlike tanks, which can repair, move on to points and stay engaged longer, planes rely heavily on markers and communication so I think most players only take out a plane to deal with a specific annoying tank or enemy position.
I think one solution is de-spawn points which are available to planes with nothing damaged over yellow. Going through it gives you the landing XP bonus and your plane doesn’t get the 2 squad cooldown.
I play planes a lot and I don’t suicide but I’m often stuck not wanting to give up my plane slot even when I’m not in a position to contribute as well because I don’t want to cycle 2 squads just to do one thing on the ground.
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This is a premium player issue; place a timer after a plane kills itself for only premium players. The timer increases with each suicide.
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That’s not true. It’s a player skill and game design issue. I could get behind a respawn timer for suicides in general but punishing premium players is an interesting monetization strategy to say the least.
How many players without premiums are able to cycle three planes?
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It isn’t; they are still allowed to cycle three planes; they just can’t commit suicide over and over again.
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Oh im not talking about players lacking skill to do more than 1 cycle or who dont even know there is an ammo refill. Im not talking about revenge kills, hopping on your plane to get revenge on that tank with higher skill that blew up your tank. Im not even talking about those guys playing 2 squads, hopping on their plane, suicide dropping to play inf or whatever again.
What im talking about is this very specific breed of human beeing that very well understands the game mechanics, buys the extra slots and cycles through their 3 or more squads of planes the entire match. Over and over again. Ending up with around 10k-15k points, 150-250 kills and a shitton of XP. Creating an unpleasant experience for everybody else, including their own team.
Basically buying progress in the techtree on the expense of everybody else. Or, cause they most likely unlocked that techtree entirely already, just farming the living hell out of that match just for fun. For superiority reasons. For little wiener reasons. I have no idea why, i dont even care. Its just annoying af.
But since they payed a not unsignificant amount of money nothing will ever happen. You and me and everybody else knows that.
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It takes significantly less skill than you’d think to cycle the 2 squads needed to suicide another plane as a F2P player.
The suicide timer is longer if you do that, so you have less time to get kills as a nonpremium player. It also takes more time to commit mass suicide and affects your time to get revenge. I would like to see footage of someone effectively doing this, as this requires actual skill, unlike cycling through three planes.
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I don’t suicide so I can’t send you a replay, but I can usually get a fresh rally down, a dozen or so kills and a little cap progress within like 2-3 minutes or so if I’m dying to get back in my plane. I also get more score on this method because if you cycle planes (which btw I almost never see this anymore) you don’t know where the enemy is half the time.
well, there is that one solution… repair cost like in war thunder so non-stop suicide diving will make you go negative with silver even with premium
earning points on ground to get access to planes like in one of the old events or in war thunder can work too. keep no point cost on round starting spawn
both of those will force local michael wittmanns to stay in grey zones even more though
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I do really like the spawn points option too. Probably one of the easiest ways to prevent mass suicide.
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How would the game engine decide if your crash was a suicide or just a simple crash as a result of damage or simple piloting error? I’ve crashed numerous times because i’ve missjudged the moment to pull up from a dive, or i clipped a wing on smth because i thought i had enough room to make it
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Which is how it is supposed to be. This is unlike cycling through three planes’ suicide tanks every time they spawned. This requires skill, unlike being a wuss of a player who cycles through three planes and keeps suicide tanks because they keep spawning.
Usually, when you get hit once or twice, it automatically gives the kill to the person who shot it (if he was the last person to shoot you). If you get clipped or crash, it won’t matter if you have a timer since you have three infantry slots you can go through. By then, the timer will be done.
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Regarding the “I almost never see this anymore” … I personally never saw this to this excessive extent in the old Enlisted. Since the revamp update it became really extreme. Suicide bombing is observable for every nation across all the BRs but the cases im talking about are usually taking place in BR 4 and 5. There also seem to be two very special people doing this as Murica, deserting every map until they get to defend against the german counterattack on D-Day. Observed this 4 days in a row, same time of the day, same two guys, cycling through bomber and fighter squads. Must be boring as hell. Unless you get off from looking at your score ofc 
And tbh I kinda doubt you are flying as much as you are stating. Cause I do fly a lot. And if you really fly a lot you actually DO know where the enemy is. Not half the time but each and every time you are getting rid of your dump. Cause you do it a lot. And you played the map a thousand times on the ground. And you dont need marks anymore cause you just know where the ground peasants are crawling. And you see where they are shooting from. You see where the dots of your own peasants are disapearing. And you see the flash of enemy tanks shooting. And you know their spawn locations. And their routes. If you once became one with the force, it just leads you to the kills.
And thats a good thing. Cause you managed to git gud. Cycling planes to top the scoreboard on the other hand just feels like borderline cheating. Borderline cause its an allowed and with the new techtree actually encouraged practice
That’s just a stupid attack. Yes I can mark tanks from the air, track tracers and listen for enemy engines to keep the skies clear. But I can do that because I circle the AO and look. The suicide planes I see rarely do so I doubt they’re taking enough time to seriously survey the field.
The points should be infantry only. Or specifically rally point score.
Yes, vehicle abuse is very serious and I complained about it for a long time, but sadly nothing changed
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No the economy in war thunder is why I moved to this game it sucked so bad also that would encurage gray zone camping as well for tanks
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