The StuG III F is NOT a BR III Tank destroyer. The StuG III F has armor similar to the Panzer III J1, No machine gun, and It also lacks a turret. Please move it down to BR 2. I have seen people talk about this a lot so I also decided to make a suggestion about this!
Next up I’ll do the sIG.
because br1 not unless 0± br
Any BR1 tank with an actual cannon can take out the StuG 3F with relative ease so long as the person doesn’t have chronic skill issue. And besides, it’s got no MG and the cannon traverse is terrible anyways. I ask you to try to use this TD yourself and see if it worthy of BR3.
paint me a picture a br1 tank what percentage of the front of the stug 3 f can it pen and what percentage of a br1 tank can the stug 3 f pen
like i am a child is the weakness a gun port slightly bigger than the shell hitting it. does it have to be hit from the side or rear, sorry but if it went to br2 it needs a nerf perhaps to rate of fire or something. i mean by this the grant should be a br1 tank
Yes if more AP/smoke, less HE
so drop every thin skinned open topped td 1 BR
Because I was drunk and I supposed to click on YES instead of NO 
Fixed it now. My deepest apologies
You just shoot on either side of the gun or the lower front plate. One side of the gun has 3/4 of the crew behind it and the other has a giant ammo rack and penning the lower front plate hits the transmission.
It’s honestly easier to kill frontally once you pen it even though it’s slightly harder to pen. Any BR1 tank with a cannon can do it. And no the Grant and Lee shouldn’t be BR1
Nope, just the Alecto
I dont know - I beat LEE and Grant very easily with my Panzer III J. Doesnt seem stronger to me - just like crusader, both could easily move to BR1 and nothing really would change.
Heck even Stug III F could move to BR1 and nothing really would change. what tank cant deal with those vehicles? Panzer II and A13? those are trash and dont get used anyways.
I find that most people that use the Grant don’t really know how to use it, but it’s definitely an upgrade compared to BR1 counterparts that warrants being put into BR2, same thing with the Crusader.
thats not what i asked draw a grid and divide the front into 10/20/100 squares how what percentage of that front can be penned by any ussr or us br1 tank 10 25 50 100, i dont care if you can pen a fist sized area that is 3% of the front when the stug 3 can pen everything of a br1 tank
am sick of people applying warthunder game play directly to enlisted. yes there made by the same company with many of the same assets. but last time i checked there was no (gray death zone) to warthunder. as of last time no regualr infantry game mode. you must balance not just armor/speed/ and fire power but ability to kill infantry and tanks. the size of the map heavy tanks rule enlisted as flanking is nearly impossible to impossible if a tank is in the gray zone.
i admit of have brushed up on planes in warthunder and it silly how 50 cals and any cannon is balanced. but given rates of fire and ammo counts unless they gave cannons almost no ammo there is not existing way to balance them.
that aside if one tank has to pixel hunt and worry about angles and one does not than its even worse than a pc playing against a console. sorry this is not warthunder most duel’s are at point blank range two tanks immobile shooting at each other first one to shoot wins. the only real strategy is dont be seen before you shoot first.
Btw, to everyone who said no (looking at you kriegerfaust) here’s a clip of the StuG III F getting killed by an M3 Stuart at a decent range just to show you that it’s not hard to do!
