What about the other TT APCs without armour? None have any yet are still TT APCs
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they aren’t apcs which is why i said apcs could come in tech trees in future
this is entirely on devs conscience
And where did you say that? Because it wasn’t in this conversation
That’s the problem.
Soon™ became a meme here because devs can’t be trusted with deadlines.
Allies faction still waits for it’s M3 that Soviets wrongfully got first (I don’t mind Sovs got it, I mind they got it before allies did) since how long now? Been years.
So you can’t really use the 250 probability as justification… doesn’t add up with snail logic (and snail pace! Badum tssss!!! 
)
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meh, im not justifying anything, people there have to actually justify svt38 being loaded with stripper clips because “hur durr other guns at this br do the same”
Their point is valid though.
Battle rating is supposed to be something used to balance things out. For all other factions, br3 = stripper clips… only sovs get one (detach mag) in br3.
With the history of Soviets faction being given weird advantages and mechanics no other factions got, the playerbase gets a bit more touchy with balance stuff.
So I wouldn’t mind if svt38 got a stripper clip reloading. Or other factions got a magazine semi of their own in br3.
Would only be fair, really.
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as if only soviets get weird advantages, yet the crying is about it, curious
Well, it’s true though.
No faction got a mechanic Soviets do not have, yet the opposite cannot be said… 
Which is why, as you said, the complaints are targeting them 
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It’s called trowing everyone on dust
If all the other nations take 2 days to reload their br 3 guns via clips why soviets shouldnt suffer aswell?
And before You start saying more nonsense i gotta remind You that all the other rifles would be on the same spot and none would have any adventage
And talking about trowing everyone on the dust i’m wondering how a gamemode with more realistic recoil and slower realod for all guns would look like
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Yeah thats fucking amazing, I would love that, its those sorts of things that make the game shine, I for one still think one of the best features for Enlisted is the limited view you have inside a tank, and how you have to risk your commander sometimes to get a better view.
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As was the UC, it offers very little to no meaningful protection to the dismounts inside, the only people sufficiently covered are the driver and hull gunner.
Hence why past the early war and in select circumstances, the UC wasnt used as an APC in the traditional sense, mostly being used as an artillery tractor and utility vehicle.
As for the T-20, it was used in basically the exact same way as the UC, and it would operate very similarly in game as well.
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nah, t20 was used only for towing guns, UC was actually used to transport personnel in battle, directly fighting
it pains to see mains who cannot objectively think critically.
" you attacked my group, i now attack your group. and when enough evidence is provided, i shall move the goal-post ".
ape type mentality 
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Bold statement.
Did you know, theoreticly speaking, that’s true for the Sd.Kfz. 7 as well.
Only difference is, this thing is both armed and armoured, whilst the Sd.Kfz. 7 isn’t.
So, what’s the problem…?
Oh, and that the UC isn’t and never was an APC, that was never its intended role, nor is it even capable of being one. It was a armoured utility vehicle, ferrying ammunition, gear, messages, artillery pieces, select very important people or wounded in and out of hotly contested zones. It was amazing, at this very specific thing, yes, but it’s not an never was and APC.
You’re not squeezing a section of mounted infantry in the back of a UC, the few that could fit in were either not protected (carrying four passengers), or only carrying two taking cover (and it’s going to be one hell of a bumpy ride with no dedicated seating in the back). There’s not even a way for them to dismount that wouldn’t leave the troops vulnerable to small arms fire (in the Sd.Kfz. 251 there’s a door in the back for example, standard for almost all APCs).
Face it, if the T20 isn’t an “APC” in your mind, which at least has dedicated seating for 6 passengers, then the UC isn’t either.
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There are only like four vehicles fullfilling the term anyways (M3, Japanese, LAV and 251) while the second German 251 being a SPG.
Others are just half-tracks, light tankettes or straight ordinary trucks.
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The is certainly accounts of T-20’s being used in the APC role, but its far more the concept of, “Heres a vehicle with an armoured compartment/engine and is tracked, meaning it will be able to push onto its objective despite small arms fire while acting as a support unit for infantry it would carry to the point of contact”.
Its worth mentioning that no APC in WW2 was used as we think of APC’s now, all would carry their dismounts to the point of contact with some very rare exceptions, the only exceptions coming to mind here is carrying sappers to a bunker/etc to plant charges.
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That is true, two wrongs doesnt make a right tho
t20 has 6 places for the gun battery crew
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to my knowledge they were usually issued with 1-2 spare mags, and a bunch of stripper clips, just like the G43
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i give up on you not seeing how moving a br4 tech tree weapons to br3 is unfair to a faction that lacks them. thank you no truly a bat shit crazy person like you makes me feel sane.
not seeing the difference between the g43/svt38/svt40/ vs garand.
is like not seeing the difference between the g43/svt38/svt40/ vs type 4/Johnson/g41
---------------------g41------------------garand
reload 2 seconds 3 seconds
magazine 8 bullets 10 bullets
please talk more i would love to take more hits of youre copium
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