Simplified or early-war PPSh. BR3

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In the meantime, I continue to try to get a drum-fed PPSh near Moscow.

Last time I suggested adding a “rusty” PPSh with characteristics degraded to the extent that it would be sufficient for BR3.

However, not everyone liked the idea of ​​introducing a corrupted version of the weapon from the TT. So today I’ll be offering a mass-produced, simplified PPSh, which, so to speak, was “born this way.”

In the first months of the war, the Soviet Union was in dire straits, desperately needing automatic weapons. Arms and ammunition production was expanded across the country by every means possible. Women began working en masse in the mines, and children in the factories.
However, this explosive expansion inevitably impacted the quality of the final products. Factories suffered from shortages of materials, machine tools, and qualified workers. And sometimes even the newly formed “factories” were almost like handicraft workshops. This led to non-compliance with production technology, simplified designs, poor component and assembly quality, and the use of low-quality materials.

So, I propose adding a PPSh (simplified design) or (early war) to the BR3.

I can’t give you an exact description of what this weapon looked like. However, I can say that, on average, these PPShs were more “boxy”, had poorer quality finish on the metal and wood surfaces, and rusted more easily, than those produced with proper technology.

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This example looks completely square. However, it was built from scratch by partisans in a forest workshop and this is not exactly our case. For an example of how simplification makes things look more square.

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To avoid imbalances, each player should receive no more than 3-4 of these PPShs per event. Consider the example of an event squad with Dolganov PPD-44s. There aren’t many of them and they don’t affect the overall balance in any way.

BR3 weapons should be something between BR2 and BR4 weapons (Seriously? Really?)

Therefore, let the PPSh (simplified design/early-war) play as something between the sawed-off PPSh and the PPD-34 with a drum magazine. Or like the PPD-34 with reduced accuracy, rate of fire, and damage. Any downgrades are necessary to make this weapon simply suitable for BR3.

Again.

I don’t want to give the Soviets an overpowered weapon. I just want to use submachine guns with drum magazines near Moscow. Because they are the most recognizable automatic weapons from the battles near Moscow. And it doesn’t matter how ineffective they are compared to the PPS and PPSh with a box magazine. I just want a drum. That’s all.

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By the way, I heard that the more worn out the MP-40 is, the higher its rate of fire (albeit at the expense of accuracy and reliability).

Anyone interested in getting a clone of the Hurricane SMG or PPSh with an MP-40 skin in the same event? Kinda “Veteran” mp-40.

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Wouldn’t it be easier to add ppsh obrez with drum?

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I have already suggested doing this once.

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Although, the more similar the PPSh is to the PPSh, the better. That’s why I prefer the idea of ​​adding an early-war PPSh with worse characteristics than the one in the game. This is a real weapon that was widely used in troops.

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Disregard the HE crybabies and just open all maps to all BRs.

Simple.

BR3 soviets don’t need another smg… you have the most iconic and the best one already

Also if you want drum mag in BR3 then so will every other faction so i welcome you to share those ideas as well.

Along with the last post trying to do this… euth has said they find nerfing weapon stats to throw them in another BR disingenuous or something around those lines i can’t find the post… was like ppsh drum rusted or something.

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Not the most. It’s even more iconic with Drum. And box one is absolutely not iconic for Moscow.

Early war low-quality PPShs are real weapons. For me, it won’t have any cyber-sports-balance-related value, but rather purely aesthetic value. I just want Battle of Moscow to look like Battle of Moscow. This weapon doesn’t necessarily have to be better than the PPSh-41 (box).

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IS-2 and King Tigers near Moscow? No, thanks. After that, the game will immediately go into the trash can.

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I suppose yeah but ppsh is ppsh… although arguably drum is “iconic” version.

I’d love to use tiger 1 or mg42 in tunisia… you don’t see me trying to make alternate versions of them to put in low br though no? i advocate for all maps all brs.

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Why?

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Really. Why not . . .

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Why not? Because people who are going to complain about HE and high power weapons just get to do it more… that’s the only reason we’ll never get it.

How you can be against that but still want a regardless of stats br3 drum mag in tech tree is beyond me.

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For example, because the Tiger 2 and IS-2 aren’t iconic Moscow tanks. Quite the opposite, in fact.

For example, because the drum-fed PPSh has a version suitable for the BR3.

For example, because the Tiger and MG-42 don’t have a version suitable for the BR3.

If you have versions of the MG-42 and the Tiger tank suitable for BR3, it would be interesting to read.

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you can use drum ppsh41 in custom matches. problem solved.

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Well my friend, I’m afraid
its-already-too-late-late

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They’re the only ones you can’t complete event tasks with. And I have no desire to play this shitty game outside of events. Some might say, “Don’t play.” I’ll answer: it’s high time. But like an idiot, I’m waiting for the false promises of the historical mode to be fulfilled.

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@c4qph2 here we need your picture of Spiderman or whoever it was looking fondly at the screenshot of “custom matches improvements”

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You’ll have to wait half an hour to an hour. It’s not very convenient for me to do that now.

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you can do it even at moscow.
In custom games.

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