Just play with the few others so keen to get ppsh on moscow maps and agree on what you use.
as above said, dont use them.
Problem solved.
This doesn’t solve the problem of the impossibility of farming events. It creates additional difficulties in gathering around 20 people willing to play under such conditions. And Germany doesn’t have a weapon suitable for this period of the war that can counter the PPSh found in BR5.
then dont do it during events
Problem solved.
Sounds like quite insignificant group.
Captured, Kp31.
Its not like there aint solutions.
No.
Who captured? From whom captured? By the Germans? From the Finns?
yes.
Quite sure GE captured plenty of Ppsh41 from sovjets.
And bought Kp31’s.
BR5 moscow would let you spam your AVS rifles, fedorov avtomats, and PPSh guns to your hearts content
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This is so dumb, stick mags already exist for these weapons.
No.
This is an example of your favorite mindless “red vs. blue” mirror balance, but it’s not what I’m asking for. I’m simply asking for two versions of the weapon with degraded stats, which, due to those stats, get 2 less BR. So that it works and does not break the balance in the main game at BR 2 and 3.
It’s not that dumb. Loading 35 rounds into drum magazines was actually a common practice, as it required fewer operations and less time.
What does this have to do with it?
I believe the PPSH and PPD should have been part of the lower-tier br from the beginning, since they were originally implemented in the Red Army with 71-round drum magazines. Only later was the 35-round box magazine adopted. This is because the 71-round drums were made of very thin metal sheets and constantly caused jams in the weapon or rendered the drum unusable. They were also terrible for logistics due to their shape and poor quality, constantly denting during transport. Regarding the PPSH and PPD’s operation with 71-round drums, besides causing constant jams due to the poor quality of the drums, there was also the factor of the extra weight from the number of cartridges, which caused imbalance in the weapon, affecting its accuracy.
Therefore, I believe the PPSH and PPD should belong to lower-tier br , but with reduced accuracy and greater recoil, while the PPSH should be in higher-tier Br with the 35-round box magazine. cartridges and with the most concentrated precision
This would be relevant in a reality where maps are matched based on historical relevance to a player’s setup. There used to be a test server like this. Campaigns a player could enter with such a setup were designated by their first letters. However, the mechanics of that test server are now a thing of the past. Although it would be fantastic if we had a second game mode where matchmaking works like on that test server.
And let’s not forget about the promise they’ve been keeping quiet about for 3 years now.
Yes, the weapons are iconic but they’re also far too strong for BR2-3. Why make a gun that’s just worse than every other option at its BR, both of the suggested balancing ideas make the PPSh and PPD worse than any gun at BR2 and BR3. Random stats are incredibly tedious and would require far more work to implement than any other weapon with less payoff. And nerfing to a degree that barely hits anything five meters in front of it would make the gun so shit no one would grind for it.
I see wanting to have iconic weapons at the battles but aside from reimplementing campaigns or opening maps to all BRs there’s no way to make that happen.
Cant really remember such red vs blue balance ever benefitting GE.
Well I did manage to pick that between the lines.
However, since the red vs blue has been requested in everyturn when it benefits soviets, lets just stick to that.
Sure, same stats & availability as mkb35.
Nomore bitching and whining about unique GE gun.
Most likely it will be just fine with the mkb35 stats.
There are still fans of the MP28/50 and Lanchester/50. I think there are some for these things too.
Create your own topic about the STG and FG upgrade.
The MKb35 is simply an example of an assault rifle with reduced stats, allowing it to be BR2. I propose introducing drum-fed SMGs with reduced stats, allowing them to be BR2 and BR3. Again, the MKb35 is simply an example of how the game can feature inherently high-BR weapon classes that, due to reduced stats, can have a significantly lower BR than weapons of the same class. For the MKb-35, this is magazine capacity. For the PPD and PPSh, this is damage and accuracy.
This isn’t funny anymore. Come up with something new and stop repeating it like a dreary woodpecker.
Im quite fine with where they are, ive got no fantasies moving them to br1-2.
Well, no. Mkb35 pretty much the “realistic” stats it should have it has nothing to do with BR5 stg.
No.
Except Mkb35 has nothing to do with the BR5 stg44 you are referring. Its entirely different weapon.
And regarding PPsh, there already is the low BR3 ppsh41 box. And ppd34? at br1-2.
So in that regard there is indeed a same class weapons in low br.
Fine, just no.
This is from a conversation about the “red vs blue” balance
These are the versions with reduced magazines. Need versions with reduced accuracy and damage.
A decrease in destructive power due to barrel wear and a decrease in accuracy due to the same barrel wear, play between loose parts and poor materials and assembling quality also sounds realistic. As a decrease in rate of fire due to spring wear.
cool.
So pretty much just like mkb.
Cool, same stats as mkb and you got a deal.
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