Rusty PPSh and PPD event

Currently, Moscow maps are only available for BR 1-3. The most memorable weapons of the Red Army of that period are the drum-fed PPSh and PPD. However, they are not available on these maps, and this doesn’t really enhance the atmosphere. For example, Germany has access to all the iconic weapons of that period. I propose introducing the PPSh and PPD with significantly reduced performance and justifying these characteristics by claiming they are “rusty”. PPSh for BR3 and the PPD for BR2 would be event rewards. Four PPSh in one event and three or four PPDs in the second.

How this could be implemented:

Option 1: Simply give them terrible accuracy and reduced damage.

Option 2: Give them a random rate of fire and random damage. The interval between shots and damage would change with each shot. The maximum values ​​should also be much worse than their BR4 and BR5 versions from TT. This can be justified by the play between the parts in a loose weapon.

While the most realistic option would be to implement a weapon jamming mechanic, this doesn’t fit the game’s dynamics well.

Additionally, to justify my seemingly crazy idea, I’ll say this: It would be better than the monstrous weapon skins from the Operation Shitstorm event. And I also found references to German soldiers noting that captured PPShs rusted very quickly. This may be due to the poor quality of materials in the Soviet Union, which was in dire straits during the first years of the war.

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The PPSh and PPD with a partially loaded drum magazine will also work

  • 25 rounds in the drum - 2 br :dromedary_camel:
  • 40 rounds in the drum - 3 br :camel:
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In the order of partial loading, 35 rounds were usually loaded, since that is how many fit into the internal groove of the magazine.

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We can change the name of moscow maps to snow 1,2,3,4,5 etc so this scapegoat reason can be buried.

Uragan was just changed to BR3.
Ive got no idea with what kind of mental gymnastics you could justify the drum ppsh or ppd in BR1-3.

Probably just easier for those moscow reminiscent players just to go customs.
Rather than adding some absolutely idiotic weapons to TT.

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No

Just give it awful stats. Due to “rusty” model.

No

Besides, we already have PPD-44 on BR3.

Just give me tunisia and moscow BRV… vehicle whiners be damned.

The urban buildings of tunisia amidst the long fields were great for full autos and whoopty do there is a pershing or tiger it’s virtually no different than 105/pz 3n

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But seriously, such an experiment has already been conducted and the absolute majority were dissatisfied with it.

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This solves your suggestion no? You want nerfed weapons from BRV to play them on the campaign which is only available to -3.

I shouldn’t have to force myself to play with new players to enjoy early war maps the whole concept of br to war period is stupid considering per your suggestion things like ppsh 41

Yes because of people who already can’t take and complain about HE… maybe add a filter bc i’m sick of playing on the same maps and i won’t repeat myself.

Maybe you should play War Thunder?

No? I love infantry and do not play tanks for the majority but have been enjoying them recently and kill the tanks that are annoying me with planes.

cba to translate.
Anyway, campaigns are dead and buried.
If someones delicate feelings get hurt by map names of old campaigns then just switch them to something generic and ppl can again sleep theyr nights.

Like, why ? Id imagine it be quite a bonerkiller to grind for this “rusty” event / TT weapon and figure out it has so bad accuracy that it hits everywhere except where your aiming at.
One could argue thats boost for soviets that hardly can hit where they aim at but thats entirely another story.

Mkb35 as example, after grinding that way too long event just to obtain 1 mkb35 and figuring out its quite far from OP as fk as soviet mains claimed it to be. Id imagine pretty much same results for ppsh thats usable only at balls touching range.

However, there are many people who like this weapon. I would happily use the drum-fed SMGs on BR2 and BR3.

Since we’re talking about Soviet mains, why can Germany have event BR2 assault rifles, event BR3 assault rifles, and event BR4 assault rifles, but the USSR can’t have event BR2 and BR3 drum-fed SMGs?

Id also like KT2 at BR1-2 but it doesnt exactly fit there.

Fine, 20 round ppsh with 400 rof.
Enjoy.

You can call it “Poorly loaded drum”

I want PPD and PPSh with a drum on the Moscow maps, not on BR2.

Or PPSh with reduced accuracy and damage. Let it be the “event Dolganov”.

Far as I know the moscow maps are available for BR2 too.
So are you suggesting BR 1-2 doesnt get moscow anymore just so these suggested weapons could be used in moscow maps ?

No thanks, give it the same stats as the OP mkb35.
Also 1 / event.

Moscow maps are a priority feature. However, Moscow maps are inseparable from BR2. Therefore, I proposed a way to place drum SMGs on Moscow maps in a way that wouldn’t disrupt the balance of BR2.

If the MKB42 is so crap, then let the PPD and PPSh “rusty” be just as crap, just in their own way.

I don’t consider the MKB-35 OP. I’m not asking for an OP weapon for the Soviets in BR2. I’m asking for a PPD sort with a drum suitable for BR2 and PPSh with a drum suitable for BR3.