Ross MK2

U.S. Surcharged Ross Mk. II*** : r/Milsurps
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The Ross Mark 2 rifle was a Canadian, straight-pull bolt-action rifle produced from 1905 to 1912 as an improvement over the Mark 1. It featured a stronger receiver, a new bolt with an angled cut for better primary extraction, and updated safety and bolt stop. While initially highly successful for target shooting, the rifle ultimately faced issues with tight chamber tolerances, especially with non-Canadian ammunition, which led to extraction problems on the battlefield and contributed to its replacement by the Lee-Enfield during World War I.
Ross MK II Rifle Review: Canada's Forgotten Straight-Pull
Design and features

  • Strengthened design: The Mark 2 had a thicker receiver, a reinforced trigger attachment, and a shortened rear tang for added strength.
  • Improved primary extraction: To address the difficulty of opening the bolt after firing, an angled cut was added to the bolt lugs, and cam tracks were added to the bolt to assist with primary extraction.
  • Updated components: The bolt stop and safety were enlarged and strengthened to improve reliability.
  • Loading and feeding: The rifle incorporated the Harris control platform for loading and included a magazine feed-off.
  • Sights: The Mark 2 had a blade front sight with a hood and an adjustable rear sight, which evolved through several variations over its production run.

I think the commonwealth nations need more love in the game along with low br gear to encourage low br noobs. Canada/Australia/NZ/Soth Africa/India with many other nations. The Ross rifles is a line of Canadian rifles that has only the last III in the game. Adding the I, II or III carbine would be nice to add (Not all just one) along with a Canadian squad. D day was a major operation of US/UK an Canada something often forgoten.

The I, II III carbine are to similar to the stats of the III to ad to the tech tree but would make a good event or premium squad. Its also a double stack straight pull which means it stays on target i love straight pulls in enlisted. it would be great at br1 as it only has 5 rounds instead of the 10 rounds of a br2. maybe even in the future some love with a ross sniper rifle a I, II Ross sniper would be a treat. Ross rifle hi-res stock photography and images - Alamy

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It’s a shitty WWI gun, As a Canadian, I do not approve of this. The ross was hated for being a piece of shit, and I would much rather have a regular Canadian squad equipped with SMLE MKIII rifles

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good to know, as a proud canadian i would rather use anything but a canadian rifle. it was only shitty when us standard uk ammunition when using canadian bullet it was as good as any rifle of the era

  • Ammunition problems: The rifle’s design was based on Canadian-made ammunition with very tight tolerances. When used with standard British ammunition, the cartridges could stretch, causing the straight-pull bolt action to jam and making it difficult for soldiers to extract spent casings.

yeah but did you not see the part where I say WWI. Ts would have been very rare during WWII, besides, just use the MK.III it’s in the TT

you mean like a quarter of the weapons in the game like the kar98, 1903 springfield, BAR, Thompson, many of the arisaka rifles ect ect. and i said as an event or premium not tech tree.

The main faults of the Ross MkIII rifle were a tendency for the bolt to be reassembled incorrectly, which could cause it to eject rearward during firing, and a design that was prone to jamming in the harsh conditions of WWI trench warfare. Other issues included tight tolerances that made the action sensitive to dirt, improper heat treatment and size of the bolt’s lugs that caused them to break, and ammunition compatibility problems with the larger-sized British .303 rounds.

Bolt and assembly faults

  • Incorrect reassembly: The bolt could be reassembled incorrectly, preventing the locking lugs from engaging properly. This would not prevent the rifle from firing, but it could result in the bolt being ejected violently out the back of the receiver.
  • Safety modification: This reassembly issue was later corrected with a safety rivet on some rifles, but the potential for error remained a problem.
  • Bolt lug damage: The bolt lugs could be damaged from impact against the bolt stop, especially under heavy use or with “frantic operation”. This could lead to the action binding, making it difficult to operate, particularly in combat.

Performance and reliability faults

  • Trench warfare issues: The rifle’s tight tolerances made it sensitive to dirt, mud, and other debris common in trench warfare, leading to it jamming frequently.
  • Ammunition incompatibility: The rifle was designed with tighter tolerances for Canadian-made .303 ammunition. British .303 rounds were slightly larger, which could cause extraction problems.
  • Stuck cartridges: The straight-pull bolt action made it more difficult to extract a stuck or stretched cartridge case compared to the bolt-action Lee-Enfield, and soldiers sometimes damaged their rifles trying to open the bolt.

Repair and modification

  • Chamber enlargement: To address the issues with British ammunition, the chambers of some rifles were enlarged, which was sometimes marked on the receiver.
  • Bolt stop replacement: A permanent fix for the bolt lug damage was to replace the small bolt stop with a larger one, but this was implemented too late to save the rifle’s reputation in combat.
  • Structural flaws: In addition to the specific problems, there were broader design criticisms regarding the lack of support for the bolt body and the small bolt stop, which made the rifle vulnerable to wear.

Are you fucking stupid. The Kar98K was the standard German rifle of WWII, The Springfield was actually quite common, especially in the early-war. The BAR (the A2 version mainly) was the standard Automatic rifle for the US, and the Tommy was a widely use SMG by many nations. The Ross Mk.II would have been extremely rare to see on the battlefield.

And if you just said it was rare in WW2 you would have a point, you also said it was from WW1. 90percent of the guns in the game are rare 2000 fg42 1s were made not used made and it’s tech tree, you also missed where I said event or premium not event, lastly the mk3 was worse than the mk1 or mk2

Makes more sense than a fucking WWI gun, and besides, I never said that should be in the TT

Kar98 trench, besides we have 5 arisaka 99, 6 kar98, 6 1903 Springfields

Proper English please.

But what I am trying to say is, we don’t need more WWI Slop when we still have lots of WWII content to be added. Like why the hell should we get some dumb Lewis AR or a WWI rifle before we even have a STEN MK.V???

Sten 5 first issued June 44’ first used February 44’ war ends may 44’ in Europe yes the mk5 a weapon with a rich WW2 heritage lol, add a he sten I or stenI star

so whats the difference between the Ross mk.II and the III we have in the game?
Thats what I want to know, not a copy pasted description of the changes mk.II received when transitioning from mk.I

For one thing the mk3 is single stack with an external magazine extension, the mk2 is double stack, different sights.