Rifle No 5 Mk I "jungle carbine"

[Kriegerfaust007-live]

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The rifle was first issued to British airborne forces in Norway towards the end of the Second World War; these were troops that were likely to be sent to the Far East for an invasion of Japan. The term was colloquial and never applied by the British Armed Forces,) but the Rifle No. 5 Mk I was informally referred to as a “jungle carbine” by British and Commonwealth troops during the Malayan Emergency.

The No. 5 bayonet was the bayonet used with the No. 5 which was nicknamed the. The bayonet was a blade which marked a return of the British Army to using blade type bayonets like the Pattern 1907 bayonet instead of socket bayonets such as the No. 4 bayonets used on the No. 4 Lee-Enfield.

This joins my suggestion with the Lee-Metford to add more bolt action rifles to the US/UK BR2 lineup. Almost all bolt action rifles were 5 to 6 round magazine. while larger magazines exist, these are almost always tube fed weapons. The Jungle carbine is a specialized short rifle designed for jungle warfare. It would do wel;l fighting against Japan in the pacific and asia.

Lee-Metford

poll An 8-10 round bolt action rifle and unlike many others in br2 is not a straight pull rifle. Like the PIAT with the UK home guard the Metford was used by the Aussies in volunteer defense corp in case Japan landed in Melborn. I like weapons that fall outside the norm of well the 5 round bolt action rifle. would be good for event, bp or premium without or better with a squad more bad ass kangaroos. [image] The Lee–Metford (also known as the Magazine Lee–Metford or .303 Lee Metford) is a B…

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No. built 251,368 total; 81,329 (BSA Shirley), 169,807 (ROF Fazakerley)[4]

[MakeWarNotLov3]

I want this weapon or a variant with an event squad, maybe Gurkhas or some Indian regiment.

153th/154th Gurkha Parachute Battalion w bayonetless (airborne variant) No.5 L.E. (made up weapon, I don’t know if that variant existed)

The regular carbine could go as TT or event weapon

[MakeWarNotLov3]

Hell, it did existed

[OggeKing]

Gurkha units would invariably belong to the Indian Army at the time - and the Indian Army never adopted the No. 5, only the British Army did.

The No. 5 only makes sense in a British squad… I’m fairly sure the Indian Army had their own experiments on a shortened service rifle based on the No. 1 (just like Australia did). I’m also fairly sure the Canadians had their own shortened exeprimental No. 4 (seperate from the British No. 5).

I’m not at home, and can’t/won’t dig around for sources and photos…

[MakeWarNotLov3]

I bet devs won’t care about that, but if that’s the case I think a paras squad armed with these airborne carbines would be a nice reward for a reinforcements recieved event. Anyway, to keep the few realism we still have I think these airborne protos could come with a paras squad, maybe the 3rd Parachute Battailon from the 1st Parachute Brigade, they fought in Sicily and Market Garden.

Curiosly, the 1st Airborne Division did used No.5 carbines, but I can’t tell if this photo is from the 1st Brigade.

Regarding India and Gurkhas, they tried to create their own Jungle Carbine in 1943, but it never made it into production, only protos.

(some sources state it was Australian, the difference is the designation: Ishapore No.1 Mk.III Jungle carbine/ No.6 Jungle carbine)

(there also says something about Canadian protos)

The Indian army and Nepalese troopers need to be represented in the game, it could be with alt squads, it could be with event squads, or with their weapons added to the game via TT (besides the Vickers-Berthier) events, or BPs.

The Indian army did recieved No.5 Carbines in limited numbers, but I can’t tell if it was during late WW2 or the Malayan Emergency, sources are messy but I can tell they had them for sure in the postwar era.

[OggeKing]

@MakeWarNotLov3

The Indian army did recieved No.5 Carbines in limited numbers, but I can’t tell if it was during late WW2 or the Malayan Emergency, sources are messy but I can tell they had them for sure in the postwar era.

I should have specified ‘during the war’, my bad. In my defence, I assume we’re only talking about WW2 since this is a WW2 game…

So, just like the statement “the British never adopted the M9 Bazooka [during the war].”

Take this as my personal belief that any IA No. 5 supply is post-war, for what that’s worth…

@MakeWarNotLov3

The Indian army and Nepalese troopers need to be represented in the game, it could be with alt squads, it could be with event squads, or with their weapons added to the game via TT (besides the Vickers-Berthier) events, or BPs.

Absolutely in favour of this… I’d love alt-squads for the entire Commonwealth - we don’t have weapons to give them all something unique in that regard, but the visual upgrade from the uniforms and the soldier’s ethnicity has a uniqueness all on its own.

KARs, Gurkhas, Chindits, Scotts, etc… the Commonwealth has so much in terms of visual representation it’s nuts…

@MakeWarNotLov3

I bet devs won’t care about that,

Well yes, the devs have no will of their own, and considering the appaling treatment the Canadians have recieved I won’t hold my breath for future faithful Commonwealth content…

I will still make a fuss about it, of course…

And there’s the thing… the devs themselves might not personally care, but they’re making Commonwealth content for certain portions of the community… which I am a small member of - and if the community cares, then the devs will (hopefully) keep that in mind.

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On another note, the No.5 has actually already been noted by the Helpers (on Discord) - for the tech tree specifically as well.

Meanwhile, the No. 6 (Australian equivelant built on the No. 1 instead of the No. 4), has been in noted conjunction for Event/Premium as well.

A further Paratrooper squad using a paratrooper No. 5 would probably be unique enough to be added as well on top of those two above…

[MakeWarNotLov3]

But I want Gurkha paras with Ishapore No.1 Carbine :,(

[CaptainBeel]

This should be added as tech tree, British dont really have a proper carbine like most other factions do.

If they add the Australian version which would be great then I would expect at least one to be tech tree.

Maybe the British Far East paratroopers with this rifle as event/premium and the Australian version as tech tree?

[weneedmorepro]

We can provide the Germans with a small paratrooper squad using 98K (disassemblable) as a counterpoint

[Euthymia07-live]

Already noted