I would like to give a new meaning to these vehicle options as they all more or less blend together. I would like to see tank destroyers play their role as a tank destroyer by removing HE shells from them, then allowing them to be downtiered. I would like to see SPGs (howitzers) only be allowed to use HE shells similar to the sherman 105 and kv2. Tanks would be more or less a jack of all trades while being a master of none, basically being untouched. The TDs/SPGs would play their more specialized roles while being better at them on the battle field. This would allow for some br changes and give a bit more “choice” to players. If the enemy has a heavy tank that your tank can’t pen, you could pull out a TD with more penn than your tank to take it out. If the game downtiers a good TD like people want with no significant downside then it will become the new end all be all vehicle for said br. I feel this mechanic would be more beneficial to gameplay and would allow vehicles that see no action get some play without just making them the new best in slot.
SPGs would also be affected. But no not useless. Incase you couldn’t read everything I’ll say it again. They would be placed so that they are a significantly better AT option than any given tank on said BR. So the m36 would go to BR3, would only have APCBC rounds, and would easily be able to handle uptiered tanks such as the panther and tiger unlike any thing else in br3
There is no handicap. “No turret, no mg” is not a handicap. If it has same/better armor than a standard tank, is better at killing tanks, and can throw HE like any other tank it becomes the best in slot. The no turret/no mg isn’t enough to make you think, maybe it’s worth taking this tank instead even though everything else about it is worse lol. It’s a laughable excuse to powercreep
First, it’s disingenuous to use the marder, TDs become VERY different when you hit br4.
Second, the br1 doesn’t see br3 anymore. Meaning the chances of br2 going against br3 now is fairly slim. If br2 was constantly seeing shermans/churchills then yes we would see more of it. In fact, i think most people just forget it’s even an option because german mains constantly complain about kv1 meanwhile they have a good TD at their disposal for it
whats disingenuous?..neither you nor I said anything about BR 4. You said Tank destroyers. Theres many across all BRs, and most of them “forgotten” as you say.
Why do you think i put the lol in there two lines down. It was meant to be funny since that’s been your argument for days now. I didn’t think I would have to spell it out for you to understand i was poking fun
We all know why, the king tiger reigns supreme on br5 and the panther g and tiger h1 reign supreme on br4. There’s nothing that would be better then them. My whole argument is by just downtiering a br4/5 tank destroyer it would instantly make everything else there “forgotten” because they’re armor and shell stats are still br4/5 worthy and those are the most important factors when choosing a tank. I don’t think this is a good way to do it.
I personally find risk/reward gameplay more appealing, and like having more specialized equipment to choose from giving players a broader way to play the game. I for one quite enjoyed playing the spitfire with no bomb and just dog fighting the entire game keeping enemy planes out of the sky. It’s a war game afterall. I know I’m probably in the minority when it comes to this though.
dementia guy forgot about Pershing, Super Pershing and Ho-Ri.
IS-1, Chi-Ri, Churchill VII,
Too generalised, its easy to find vehicles such as StuG III G which was fine for its BR and also easy to find vehicles that were obviously overtiered such as M18 hellcat.
wait, you cant be this stupid.
Superpershing has better cannon and armour than Tiger II H and you just claimed that nothing else matters… Even though you also claimed that “king tiger reigns supreme on br5”.
Do i really have to spell every little thing out for you? Maybe your brain just isn’t able to piece it all together. I was obviously refering to germany. As that’s all i was talking about in that whole paragraph. Why would i compare another faction’s tanks when i was comparing the tanks in select bracket for one nation (germany)? But either way. King tiger armor is still better than super pershing and is2’s armor
Not to mention the limited squad slots for most players as well. If we had more risk/reward options along with a few other mechanics implemented like more available slots for different scenarios we would see more use of specialized things
I never mentioned IS-2, but Superpershing has 2x 38mm and 100mm armour plates on the hull which is better than Tiger II´s 150mm.
The turret front also enjoys 200+mm of armour with even higher effective armour while Tiger IIs has a flat 185mm armour.
The only counter argument here is that Superpersh has less armour on the weakspots but those are also significantly harder to hit than those of the Tiger II.
