Rework armored vehicles (tanks/tank destroyers/SPGs)

Why would anyone but a premium player use anything but normal tanks with this change? SPGs and TDs are the objectively worse option with this. TDs are useless in 99% percent of cases without HE and wasting your only vehicle slot on a TD would only hurt your team

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Even “tank destroyers” in real life carried mostly HE shells for fire support…

But lets say I do spawn a TD and destroy the one enemy tank that was camping, then what?
I would have no HE shells and no machine guns. Do I run people over?
Only vehicles with APHE would benefit since vehicles like Ho-Ri could be dropped to BR4 with this change.

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Because Germany benefits the most fro down tiering tank destroyers and the us the least.
The us tank destroyers as thin skinned and almost always open topped meaning just about anything can kill them,
German tank destroyers on the other hand can quickly become all but unkillable at lower brs. Sorry but taking slightly longer to turn while bouncing shells is not enough of a hindrance.

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To be honest, game needs more available slots for specific things. but then it would probably ruin the gameplay along with game’s profit but in my mind I would love to see “TD Slot” “SPG slot” “Fighter Slot” “Attacker Slot” etc. so that any person could pull whatever needed in their match. too bad its impossible

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Good job you can read some numbers off. Now is the extra armor plating covering the entire front at those values? Please tell me, what’s the armor like on the sides and other places?

You’re such a joke. Everyone knows king tiger is better than super pershing…oh wait i forgot about the 50 cal on top. Actually that tips the scales. That 50 cal really made all the difference

Almost forgot i have to tell you that was a joke

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If you happen to be in a tank destroyer of high tier Germany’s that shermans cant penn then the u.s. would have to pull out a TD to kill yours to help protect their future tank spawns. You would then be able to play cat and mouse with their TD. And tank spawns are constant. But maybe just a few HE is okay in this hypothetical. But anything over 10 is too much in my mind.

Finally. Someone who can the bigger picture!

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I might take this image… but idk if it beats the one that I already have…

No mg no turret is a handicap
On the other hand having a better gun and better armor is a perk
Or positive handicap the more you know

Otherwise u.s. Just needs better low/mid tier tanks to deal with the better tanks of germany. Maybe like giving sherman 105 apcbc rounds.

Or

…giving chaffee apcbc rounds. (This was actually my sole intention the whole time)

Did such a thing even exist? I don’t think the 105 Sherman used APCBC shells as it was an Artillery Vehicle.

This would need to be done on a case by case basis.

US already has all of its TDs a BR lower than the tank variant.
M10 Wolw BR3, M4A2/A1 76w sherman BR4
M36 Jackson BR4, M26 Pershing BR5
Why cant other factions get the same treatment?

that also true for German TDs, some are open topped (Pz.Sfl.Ic) some are turretless (StuG, Jagdpanther) while some are both (Marder, Dicker Max).
Take Panzer IV/70(A) as an example.

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How is this thing BR4?
You get no turret, less shells and worse mobility than Panzer IV all for the turret weakspot eliminated and a slightly better gun with slower reload.
The hull weakspot can still be penned by any Sherman, T-34 and M8 Scott, lower hull by M3 Lee, T-28, T-50 and Crusader.

I cant think of a single reason why this tank shouldnt be BR3.

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should give them radio call ins

i agree with many
but you dont get credit for not having a turret if you add armor

Still lags behind with germany and russia and m10 is significantly worse than m4a2. Unlike many german ones which are pretty much on par with current tanks in current br. They’re just slightly worse because of not having a turret. That’s not the same as having worse armor, open top, and same gun

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Should of been br1. I wanted to buy this so badly, but couldn’t with it being br2. Guess it was br2 because it got a turret though. Lmao

And what if they just ignore you? What then? You are stuck just watching the enemy infantry (who outnumber your own due to you being in a TD) overrun the point and cant do shit about that.

Even worse if a singular infantrymen with TNT comes running while you want to drive into a position to actually kill the enemy tank…

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Thats not an argument, thats your opinion.

M4A2 76w or normal?
M10 fills a different role than 75 M4A2 thus it should be compared accordingly.

Not really, these are always a BR higher.
StuG III is built on Panzer III, all panzer III with one exception are BR1 or 2.
Same goes for panzer IV(A), Jagdpanther ect…

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