Remove one of the ranking mechanics for the sake of balance

Hello ! The way the rank system works is problematic.

What it’s done is that players who want to play seriously will systematically choose Germany or Japan, while everyone else just loses (a 1-2 years ago, I had an 83% win rate with Germany, 78% with Japan, 17% with the USA, and 30% with the USSR, now it’s the opposite). If you wanted a high rank, you would always play Germany or Japan, and all the best players would do the same. And if you wanted a high rank, it was impossible to play the USA, for example; they just kept losing.

The problem is that this has created a huge imbalance; everyone who played to win went for Germany. To fix this imbalance, the armies and maps were modified accordingly. And as a result of these changes, the USSR became overpowered, and Japan is disastrous; the game mechanics have been reversed because of this migration.

Now, there’s a massive migration towards the USSR, and it’s impossible to beat in urban environments, especially anywhere automatic weapons are effective. Take an urban map, for example: Germany has an 80% chance of losing.

Its weapons have become far too powerful (especially submachine guns, but even the SVT-38 is infinitely more effective than the Gewehr 41; it has less recoil, a detachable 10-round magazine, and is even better than the Gewehr 43 in Br-4). There’s a huge imbalance that didn’t exist before. Now, with this massive migration towards the USSR, Germany is winning much less because Russian weapons are more effective, and people are starting to migrate to compensate.

To solve this problem, the rank point lost when you lose a battle should be removed. At a stretch, you could increase the number of ranks between each rank to compensate, but this loss mechanic, which encourages players to choose the best nations, really needs to be eliminated. As long as this point deduction mechanism remains, the balance will be disastrous.

However, we can keep the point deduction for desertion, but not for the team or anything team-related. Alternatively, we could award more points, perhaps even an extra point, if the person whose rallying points were used the most by the team.

This system is very easy to modify and can have an excellent effect. Removing it won’t pose any problems. So we might as well remove it to see what happens. Besides, it’s fundamentally unfair.

Remove the rank point lost when losing a battle
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I’ve taken the liberty to help you out this once. Be sure to include one in your next suggestion. :slight_smile:

Its a very longwinded suggestion, but the TLDR for other people is, remove the rank point loss upon a defeat.

As for the suggestion, Im completely on board, honestly I think the WR stat should be hidden as well, just to stop encouraging those who desert at the last second for the vain reason of a WR, or even better, just count all desertions as losses.

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Gaijin could just get rid of the w/l % all together, then most people probably wouldn’t care, they would just play the game for fun like the game should be. To be honest the w/l % is meaningless anyway. I think a lot of people who have super high winning % are super inflating them by playing a lot of custom matches against bots :rofl:.

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Do customs really count toward official stats? That’s kind of crazy. It’s a custom game, shouldn’t reflect on anything.

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Yes, every stat is still tallied just like if your playing in the normal game mode. However, if your playing in your own custom match vs bots, you don’t get a rank increase when you win, or a decrease when you lose. I played over three and a half years before I ever played my first custom match, and since have increased all my factions w/l% quite significantly. For example, my Allies who were at 53% playing strictly against other people is now at over 63%. My guess is that when you see people posting their Enlisted career stat sheet and you see every faction over 80% that they are playing quite a bit in custom match mode. Either that or they are playing solely in stacked groups. :joy:

I like to play custom matches by myself because I can use squads I would never use against other people. I suck with bolt action rifles, but built several boltie squads just to practice and get better in the custom match, and I have improved quite a bit.

Plus, you can choose your map, choose your game mode and choose the number of bots. Your own custom match is a great place to fulfill your daily BP objectives. Example, one objectives is 20 artillery kills. I just choose a map where the majority of fighting is outdoors so you have a much better chance at quick kills.

This seems kind of cheap lol, but yeah that makes sense. I often want to play with certain things and just feel like i can’t compete using whatever. Have been playing for over 2 years, and only tried 1 custom match when i first started playing. All the guns to pick up at spawn had no ammo and you didn’t start with one either. Said this was dumb and never tried another one again hah. I realize it was probably just set up poorly. The only other time i tried to start a custom was to try and show a friend some stuff but it wouldn’t start the match with him in the game even though we were in the lobby together. So yeah, i never bothered with trying to figure it out since.

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Play your own two man game. If you play in someone else’s then you have to play by their rules. You probably got into a lone fighter mode match. If you want to play your own match and have normal use of squads choose mode “SQUADS”, not lone fighters. Then choose the number of bots. I usually either keep it at 12 or 16. Then choose your map and mode and have fun. I had zero bolt action rifle squads, now I have a full lineup for every faction and I do enjoy playing bolt action in custom mode.

If you have premium you can save your maps and modes so you don’t have to choose every time.

Idk how does it solve anything

There’s no matchmaking in Enlisted, the rank points are useless since getting Battle Hero makes it so you gain a point (thus nullifying the -1 point when losing)

The huge disbalance between nations is a topic of a handful of equipment nerfs with time investment of a single weekend lol