Is fun that thing abouth the BR if we would get historical BRs everyone would cry abouth soviets because they would get the Fedorov Avtomat at the start of the TT because is a WW1 gun and the KV-1 would be also low on BR because is a 1939 tank
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And I got not a single problem with what you said.
Ww2 immersion is indeed important.
However, unlike what Veekay45 wants, battle rating is only a tool for balance. Nothing more.
I’d of course support alternatives for ww2 immersion!
Just not at the cost of balance.
I remember Moscow ppsh41 vs beretta 20 rounds.
It’s nowadays br5 vs br1 for a very good, and obvious reason.
Never such bs again, even if it makes Veekay45 sad.
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I think it would be more reasonable to integrate the battles before the unification into a new mode, similar to the custom mode, but exactly the same as the first mock examination before unification, without adopting a weighting system, allowing both sides to freely choose which mode to play
By the looks of it, the next big update would probably next week at 17, probably same day as the new battle pass too, I just hope all the suggestions and discussions we had would be taken into consideration by the Devs
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The test server is scheduled to end between today and tomorrow. It’s possible it releases tomorrow, depending on what bugs were found. Since they decoupled major updates from battlepass specifically so they didn’t have to release major updates on BP reset days, we’ll see.
It has already ended yesterday June 8th (09:00 UTC)
Ah yes. I rarely know what day it is, but that makes sense.
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what do you mean you dont want a suomi in BR1 and a kar98 kriegsmodell in br5? /joke
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When is the Major Updates
Soon™
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This week you think?
Isn’t that true? Why hasn’t Japan received a single event for over six months?
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What’s sad is that after all these years together on this forum you still seem to think that I want imbalance/sealclubbing/faction X auto win/BRs based just on history/mixed randomly with no regard to power level.
Please refer here:
My point has always been that this “New Enlisted” way is not the only way to achieve “holy balance”.
And yes I do believe that this “4 nations x 5 BRs by power level” system has opened the gates for complete clusterfuck and additions of insanities like Su-9 (1946) or Ho Ri (2017) which is simply made up.
I strongly believe that any WW2 game that takes itself even a little bit seriously must first and foremost ensure the most basic and stupidly obvious conditions, such as:
- no jets in Stalingrad
- no Volkssturm in Moscow
- no tropical camo planes in Ardennes
- no early war Soviets in Berlin
- no made up guns/vehicles
- no gear which didn’t exist in WW2
I feel like I lost some brain cells just typing these points.
And as has been said many times, brute BRs were not the only option at all.
Gear could have been balanced by a myriad or other limitations such as:
- class restrictions (e.g. FG-42 only with Paratroopers after Merge)
- squad sizes (e.g. squad with SVT - 6 people, squad with AVT - 3 people)
- weapon price (e.g. MP-3001 is 100 silver but StG-44 is 100,000 silver)
- Front limitations (e.g. you have 3 German armies to equip - Eastern Front, Western Front and DAK, with appropriate gear selection, i.e. no Puma in Africa)
- etc.
Once again I’m not saying that either of the options above are perfect, but they could at least have been considered/integrated together with BRs.
Instead we’ve been stagnating after the Merge with this 4x5 mantra, no new nations in sight, no France 1940 or Finland 1939-40 or China vs Japan because ‘holy BRs’ make it impossible,
and only getting BS prototype after BS prototype and ‘secret’ 30 round mags for old weapons.
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Yes, I do know.
You’re the one who kept advocating for really silly things like:
“Fedorov should be br1 and all volks weaponry br5!!!”
Already that shows you don’t understand what battle rating is about.
What amount of nerf could make the Fedorov br1 worthy when there’s no lmg in br1 for any faction. Or inversely what buffs could make volks br5 viable.
But you don’t care about that as long as it’s “HA”.
Other very silly examples you just posted:
Oh sure. But what about T20 and avt40? Those you’d be fine if used by any squads I bet. Well avt40. You’d just DELETE the T20, I know.
It’s what I said above. Soviets could field any squad with avt40 as long as they’re few 
. Facing paratroopers with fg42 for axis, a squad only lucky ppl or those who spent, have.
100k silver. Do I really need to explain how stupid that is. I know it’s an example, but I bet you’d be fine with ppsh41 costing 1000 silver “because a million was crafted, so it’s HA”…
…
It’s just bad.
Instead over the years, I kept telling you your best chance would be to advocate for a genuine, separate, historically accurate mode, or events. A bit like seen in WT.
But that won’t do for you, you want to change the entire base game…
It won’t work. Ever. I hope you know, deep down.
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When did I ever say that?
Same concept - only available to a new “automatic rifleman” class / only available within a specific squad / very inaccurate and hard to control (as it was) – you know, anything outside of the “BR” holy commandment set in stone.
Again – see the link above about Enlisted 2.0.
Surely you speak English and know what “e.g.” means, please.
And I’ve been asking for/requesting/suggesting them as well, but we the history loving group basically keep getting a bit fat zero since 2023.
It can/could easily work. There are unlimited "it"s even.
Whether as base game or persistent game mode or event – but at least something that’s not clusterfuxk.
There are literally games right now where Germans having access to STG neither requires proto AK/M16 nor makes everyone play Germany/STG exclusively (see HLL and BFV).
The truth is that the devs took the path of least resistance and maximum clownfest to sell China squads on the Chinese market $$$
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Please stop with the pointless argument.
Veekay is right that the game was robbed most of its historical authenticity (was never perfectly HA to begin with, but usually felt authentic).
Joe is right that BR is about balancing.
Ideally, both needs should be satisfied by having an arcady (current) and historical game mode.
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It’s what I keep sayiiiing…
A DIFFERENT, HA mode…
A realism mode if only people would actually play it sadly.
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What’s funny is devs attempted those a few times.
Those events with fixed loadouts (example market garden).
I liked because it felt different and slightly historical…
…
But the majority disliked it…
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I mostly hated the gameplay, not really the loadout though it was a bit off at times.
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