Okay so first
Uhm what does this imply. Your language implies heavily it’s bad?
Second you said that not me I was correcting you about it’s stats ad hominem again which I stated ppsh it wasn’t in-fact a laser again I might have to remind you it’s worse than the Shichuan again .25 < .70 idk what to tell you it’s code in a game that we know how it function
So instead of like pushing something and not actually trying to tackle the points with ad hominem you might need to do some required research
You might need to do some research on keeping a consumer base because changing the BR in a negative way of a weapon with no relative changes is not the way you keep them.
You can keep pointing at the numbers it doesn’t change that ppsh box is still best smg in game really and is still a laser despite what they did… now this could be because of its volume of fire.
Can be ran on 3x squad WITH assaulter 4 making them extremely viable aggressive troops… way better than assaulter 2-3 with ShT sights? Also need i remind you sichuan and 7.63 are both 5 mans squads which can be used as reasoning for keeping them in their place along with 763 being premium because like it or not premiums do get to avoid normal placed rules.
I am unironically going to pull the whale card and say i believe have no right making suggestions on a premium weapon which others have paid for that you have not and are basing it purely on experience you have when you picked it up and got killed by… if you made suggestions to nerf for every gun you thought was good and got killed by the forum would be spammed… this is my opinion however i simply feel the need to make it known.
Perhaps M1A1 can be brought back to 3… and then you can tackle the 763.
I will do some self reflection in saying that changing the dispersion of the sichuan only serves to bring it up to standard with others but even then standards are not what event and premiums are governed by.
Haha… no… i clearly said premiums which was a mistake on my part and you choose to point out the sichuan wasn’t a premium… fair point and then i addressed how the ppsh was “infinitely” better which is true simply because you can run it on assaulter 4… another mistake ill admit with my wording… if you took that as saying it was bad then fair but it’s not what i was getting at.
We are clearly arguing about two different things… i really couldn’t care less about the sichuan but i do because i spent time grinding it and would prefer it to stay a unique, powerful limited time gun.
if everything was about balancing… every gun would do the same damage and same stats in fact there would be no stats it would just be flat damage… i will for the most part stay out of balancing topics because of my feelings towards it but not when you are trying to put your grubby hands on stuff you haven’t even had the chance to use properly.
Also about my consumer base comment… wonder why the f80 wasn’t nerfed? Because there would be outrage from the consumer which is the true backing force of this game. Likewise with that is why the 763 is and will always be BR2. Hell if anything use that as spite for them to actually do it… but the track record proves such.
If you’re so confident in 763 being br3 material then you buy so you can use it at BR3.
It can absolutely stay in br2 as a premmy squad. There’s only 5 guys, no radio operator, no machine gunner. Germany also has things like the pps42 on a 5 man squad, the mas38 and mp35 to be used on a normal squad. Germany also gets a ppsh in br3. I wonder why you didn’t compare it to that one?
Yap of the century ignore the points and do what you will
Can you reword that better?
And you can continue to do as such as well… buy the squad yourself and then suggest changes.
You don’t have to when you can pick up the guns yourself which I stated I did plus I would’ve if DF actually do sales on consoles
You’re too good to pay things for full price huh… so you just punish others who do such. Hm makes sense.
M1A1 you have a point it should have never been downtiered but complaining about limited event weapons is laughable… also need i remind you why stinger retains its 200 rd box.
Eh maybe that last part wasn’t too good to include as if the stinger lost 100 rds it would just suck like mg 81
Sounds like you didn’t know you can figure out what actual recoil is in game by a simple math equation using the recoil control stat. If its 70, then 70% of the recoil is taken away. What’s left is the actual recoil.
Let’s not go here buddy. I too don’t want it to be br3. But these squads are ridiculously overpriced and it’s not fair to bully others over not paying full price/paying for them at all. Especially when most of the world is suffering financially right now. It’s okay for him to have an opinion, and in all fairness, it’s stats are very similar to the ZK. I just don’t see it as a problem. It doesn’t feel that strong in game play. I actually hardly use them in br2 because i have so many other better options.
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Yes that comment was out of pocket… literally
Actually going through the sheet and recoil not really i think it’s actually not true example AVS-36
Ingame 88 w the equation 88x.7=61.6 now 88-61.6=26.4 meanwhile the spread sheet states it’s 22 so no the math doesn’t work
Btw again can you clarify what you mean here I still don’t know your point here
Basically said I don’t see it as a problem, with it being a premium squad and with the squad limitations it has as a premium squad. Germany has the pps42 gun in a br2 premium squad which compares to it. They also have the mas38 and mp35 as event guns which compare to it.
I don’t know how else to say this lol.
You get 5 dudes 3 assaulters which are the most likely to have dedicated perks for their weaponry along with not being assaulter 4… now granted the engi and AT having the weapon is cool but not when you can’t perk them to use it properly… for example its necessary to have build speed on engis… well that takes away most run and climb speed along with jump height vice versa with AT wanting aim speed instead of prioritizing recoil which tbh 763 doesn’t have much anyway but we are console we can’t really argue about recoil as it’s reduced by 30% already
ass 4 ppsh with higher fire rate is unmatched against the sichuan… likewise with the M1928A1 having four ass 4 with that would be much better than 3 assaulter whatever they are it’s not important and 2 underperked for the weapon.
Now in some ways premiums/event are either collectibles side grades or upgrades… i prefer this be the rare case of an upgrade.
I disagree with Thompson 7.63 but only cuz the squad lineup is kinda small
I’m comparing event squads and research but there is a interesting point bc someone else’s point it’s their own thing is in-fact not particularly right recently the update that brought the Beretta M38A(40) from br4 → br3 they put the TZ-45 under that gun with no other changes they did to it. Why? Bc the TZ-45 is the reason the gun got moved down a br so these weapons do effect the game in a balancing standpoint
The MP-35 is another example I used it as an argument before to a helper to make the research MP-35/I to have 7.0 or 7.2 dmg still or move it down a br
Mas-38 smg was a br3 smg but was moved down a br due to its pretty terrible dmg 6.2 isn’t great in-fact it’s the second worse dmg dealing smg’s in the game. Behind the obrez ppsh which came after this gun iirc
these guns do effect this games balance that’s why I put them to the standards of the TT weapons too which is why I directly compared it to the ZK-383 which it’s very similar too but different in many ways
Well I can make the dispersion smaller too with the the tier up tbf which probably the devs will possibly do too when it gets moved up a br