OVP1918 historical adjustment

[Valkay]

Hello Bajtársak and fellow forumdwellers,
The Revelli OVP submachine gun was designed by Colonel Bethel-Abiel Revelli, the designer of the famous Italian World War I submachine gun, the twin barreled Villar Perosa.
Both OVP and VP operate on the same action and fire 9x19 Glisenti.
The OVP was conceived as pilots’ self defense weapon during the Great War and was produced in the limited quantities of around 500 (the standard was Mauser C96 which ran low due to the war) The OVP later was service in the Second Italo-Ethiopian and in the Second World War, it was phased out by the Beretta 1938/42 in 1943.

My experience with the OVP was short:
I unlocked the gun in the Tunisian campaign (circa 3 years ago) and I expected a powerful submachine gun plagued with constant reloads, instead I found that its not exactly an ideal weapon for the vast Tunisian deserts with its high recoil, high dispersion, the sights and magazine takes up half my screen so I reverted back to the M1 Beretta instead.

This was my first and last time I used that gun.
It’s a CQC oriented gun and that’s fine, downsides are reasonable for that fire rate at BR2. The issue is that no one uses the OVP 1918 because it is functionally the same as the Beretta 1918 but the Beretta is both better and unlocked earlier in the progression (since OVP is foldered under it).

Submachine Guns			Damage				Reload Timings (s)			Statcard Recoil			Effective Recoil			Moving Spread Increase
Weapon Name	Obtained	BR	10m	100m	Velocity	Magazine	Reload	Alt Reload	Rate of Fire	Vertical	Horizontal	Recoil Control	Vertical	Horizontal	Dispersion	While Aiming	Hipfiring	Visual Recoil	Recoil Dir	ADS Speed	Recoil Offset	Sprint Factor	Weight	Additional Info
Beretta M1918	34000 RP	II	6.8	4.0	400	25	2.3	1.8	1040	18	16	0.4	7	6	0.76	0.0	15.0	1.6	0.0	0.76	0.3	100%	4.0	25/125
OVP M1918	34000 RP	II	6.8	4.0	435	25	2.7	2.3	1040	30	15	0.4	12	6	0.77	0.0	15.0	1.6	0.4	0.85	0.3	100%	4.5	25/125

One of these two will always be neglected as long as they are on the same BR.
However there is a crucial difference between these two, the OVP was designed to fire 9x19 Glisenti which is significantly less powerful than the 9x19 parabellum fired by the Beretta 1918.

Since the Glisenti and Parabellum cartridges are so dimensionally similar, Villar Perosa magazines can be loaded with 9x19mm Parabellum cartridges; however, because the weapons were originally designed for the Italian Glisenti cartridge, firing Parabellum from the O.V.P. submachine gun cannot be recommended
quoting: Revelli OVP submachine gun

Currently the OVP has the stats of a 9mm parabellum firing gun since it has 6.8 damage and 435m/s muzzle velocity, but that’s historically inaccurate since the OVP must be loaded with 9mm Glisenti, consequently its muzzle velocity was only around ~365 m/s or even less. Same as the Villar Perosa by the way (also among the sources).
Loading an OVP1918 with normal 9mm parabellum (400m/s) is already too dangerous, the overloaded 9mm M38 (430-435m/s) was certainly never used with the OVP.

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I propose that the OVP has its:

• muzzle velocity reduced to its historically accurate 365m/s
• its damage reduced to due to the lower muzzle velocity to 6.6 or 6.5 damage
• Battle Rating lowered to BR1

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Comparison with PPD-34

Submachine Guns			Damage				Reload Timings (s)			Statcard Recoil			Effective Recoil			Moving Spread Increase
Weapon Name	Obtained	BR	10m	100m	Velocity	Magazine	Reload	Alt Reload	Rate of Fire	Vertical	Horizontal	Recoil Control	Vertical	Horizontal	Dispersion	While Aiming	Hipfiring	Visual Recoil	Recoil Dir	ADS Speed	Recoil Offset	Sprint Factor	Weight	Additional Info
PPD-34	5000 RP	I	6.4	3.2	450	25	2.3	1.9	920	20	12	0.4	8	5	0.71	0.0	15.0	1.6	0.41	0.8	0.3	100%	3.75	25/125
proposed OVP M1918	34000 RP	I	6.5	3.3	365	25	2.7	2.3	1040	30	15	0.4	12	6	0.77	0.0	15.0	1.6	0.4	0.85	0.3	100%	4.5	25/125

The fire rate might seem scary at first, but the OVP has so many downsides that it will be worse than the PPD-34.
For the people lazy to read the stats: OVP would have slightly more damage and fire rate than PPD-34, at the cost of worse recoil, dispersion and reload time.
The main downside, the terrible ironsight that takes up half the screen still remains too so even on BR1, the OVP would be a rarely used niche gun, but at least it would have some use.
Japan could also get a similar toy.

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Sources:

Revelli OVP submachine gun
The world’s submachine guns (machine pistols) by Nelson, Thomas B

Weapon : A Visual History Of Arms And Armor by Dorling Kindersley

https://web.archive.org/web/20191019062945/http://www.armigeridelpiave.it/SELEZIONI/VillarPerosa.pdf (In Italian)

Correct the OVP1918?

• Yes
• No

[TUSUPOLISI69]

both guns are terrible regardless of BR.

Why not.

[Luvs2spooge]

@TUSUPOLISI69

both guns are terrible regardless of BR.

Why not

The OVP M1918 I hate, but after forcing myself to use the M1918 and somewhat getting used to the gun site, I don’t hate it. Neither are good as far as BR2 smg’s are concerned. I do however like the sound of the OVP better then the M1918 though.