OUTLISTED: Exploiters edition

They more likely are no harming ppl just stacking hundreds of boosters to get tons of xp and boosters

Banning them tbf was wrong it would be better to remove the ammounts of silver and fix the bug

But well :person_shrugging:

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lol you’re absolutely wrong, thousands of people were sitting in AFK farming servers in battlefield 2042 to complete the battlepass there.

Tons of people have been exploiting BF6 too, getting out of bounds of the map and griefing people. I have NEVER seen a person be banned in BF6 for anything besides using 3rd party programs to cheat or saying slurs in chat

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213 million silver?
Dear S-G,

He wasn’t doing it in regular matches. He was going into closed custom games.
That completely devalues the efforts of normal players and the grind.
And it breaks the balance and the economy — having 30 RMN-50s is ridiculous. I’m already terrorizing randoms with just 4.

Maybe someone got hit by this accidentally (though I don’t believe that).
If they had been moderate in what they were doing, farmed a little bit instead of being greedy, and didn’t brag with screenshots, it probably would’ve gone unnoticed.

But greed combined with a sense of total immunity leads exactly to this result.

Baszi, greyparrots — those are the guys I actually feel sorry for.

What gets me the most is the way they reacted to the news:
The traces,
The screaming,
The begging,
And the attempt to justify themselves by saying the game is bad.

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Regarding this game ban incident, as the person involved, I truly feel deeply emotional. Let me explain to everyone: indeed, we exploited a series of loopholes. If we had been banned immediately, I believe no one on the list would have much objection. Everyone was aware before doing these things that there was a possibility of punishment. Although they did not anticipate such a severe consequence as a permanent ban, no matter how the officials try to disguise it with words, they cannot hide the fact that the officials are ignoring players’ opinions. Treating players’ wealth as their personal property, they use these petty provisions to arbitrarily or even maliciously punish players to extract funds from them. They clearly know that such people exist, and they also know that these people are loyal players who would recharge during the 5th-anniversary event. The officials intended to exploit their final remaining value during this event, and after executing the ban, they grandiosely claim to be acting in the players’ best interest. Their words explicitly indicate that these players affected the normal gameplay of others. But how did they affect it? By using weapons that didn’t give much of an advantage? Even without those weapons, we could still achieve excellent results. So, do you take the same rigorous stance toward cheaters? After all, they merely affect other players, whereas we affected your revenue. The officials allow us to appeal, but when we appeal, they use the excuse of appealing to the community to deceive us. However, apologies, some of us lost the right to speak on our banned accounts when appealing to the community without any reason—the given reason was equally absurd. Similarly, many people on the leaderboard, as far as I know, are mostly Chinese, possibly entirely Chinese. After discovering methods, we continuously improved them to help our fellow compatriots deeply involved in the game. The small size of the Chinese community makes us more united. To my knowledge, not only Chinese players exploited these loopholes, so can I believe that officials are discriminating against Chinese players and deliberately neglecting Chinese-speaking players? It seems that because banned players are all Chinese-speaking, any punishment applied is arbitrary. Among the leaderboard members, some play a leading role in the Chinese community, while many are pillars supporting the professionalism of the Chinese community. Of course, everyone is free to raise questions, including one malicious person from our own culture. Although we know that you are not as noble as you describe yourself, trying to build the image of a so-called righteous person through a series of words, as the Chinese writer Lu Xun once said, ‘A perfect fly is still just a fly.’ We acknowledge that the rules we broke are shameful, but when we recognize the series of actions taken by the officials, we are angry. The officials call it ‘malicious exploitation of a loophole.’ Then, what is malicious? What is a loophole? Is it just because of the game’s mechanics? I believe we can also call the series of official bans a malicious exploitation of the ban mechanism.Maliciously waiting until the event ends to get banned—if the officials are willing to acknowledge this whole series of events, we are also willing to voluntarily admit that we maliciously exploited these mechanisms. The rules provided by the officials are a vague offense, without clearly specifying what the punishment should be. To be frank, today it’s us, but in the future, it could be anyone; the difference is only when the officials want to maximize their own benefit. We support this game.

Only by risking our own accounts have we come to understand how the officials will quickly retaliate to protect their own interests. So, here’s the question: we have endured many game bugs for a long time, so should we respond in the same way? That would further affect everyone’s gaming experience. Why are they indifferent? And if they are indifferent, why are there so many pompous words? You updated the mechanism quickly, which leads to another question: why not extend the effective time of the boost cards? Why is the cap set at 500? If I have three 300% boost cards, that is entirely possible. Do the officials consider reaching a 900% boost malicious?

In subsequent lottery events with so many boost cards obtained, how do you intend to handle them? Reduce the probability of getting boost cards? I doubt you would do that, and ultimately, it’s the players who suffer. This so-called change, at least in my view, rather puts people in a worse situation. The game balance has such a major problem—what adjustments have you made? I think this should be a very important issue for many veteran players—how detailed were your adjustments? I suspect not very detailed; you probably acted impulsively in the community, arbitrarily banning other players’ posts. Do you think they are a minority in this game? Such actions are no different from driving on a highway and complaining why everyone else is going the wrong way—equally foolish.

Players’ resentment runs deep. You might ignore this article or block it for various reasons, but contradictions always exist; they don’t disappear just because people close their eyes. Will everything you do make others believe you? Could the officials deliberately deceive players for their wealth when they know the game can no longer continue? Of course, this is only my guess. After all, all you ever say is that, despite this happening, it doesn’t mean we will give up this game. Like the old deserter system, why not optimize your laughable matchmaking system—you know very well who is affected. Is it only skilled players? Don’t lower-ranked players in a match affect others’ gaming experience?

I don’t lack games to play. Regarding account bans, I only feel regret. There shouldn’t be any malice between players in our view, and I will also remember the time spent playing this game. Perhaps in the future, at some unclear time, we will fight side by side in some unknown game. Players will always exist, but the officials, I think, will be exactly the opposite.The text uses machine translation, sorry for affecting your reading.

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Dear Developers,
Yesterday, I discovered that my account has been permanently banned due to alleged exploitation of a game flaw. I deeply regret this situation.
First of all, I acknowledge that exploiting a game mechanic to earn silver is an unfair practice, and I sincerely apologize for my actions. However, don’t you think a permanent ban without any prior warning is overly severe? I have been playing this game for nearly five years and have contributed valuable feedbacks on the forums. Throughout this time, I have never violated any other game rules.
In fact, I only used the exploit about five times over the past month or two, gaining no more than two million silver in total. I decided to do so only after learning about it from friends and noticing that previous users had never received any warnings, let alone punishments.
Because of this, I believe a significant number of those banned in this wave are actually loyal players like me, who used the exploit quite sparingly. Many of us had been aware of the method for some time but refrained from using it until we saw that the developers had taken no action against it. We were always cautious not to disrupt game balance.
Therefore, I feel the punishment is unfair. I hope the severity of the penalty can be reassessed based on the amount of silver gained, rather than issuing permanent bans indiscriminately. Alternatively, if you choose not to reconsider, wouldn’t it be fair to also identify and take action against those who exploited the flaw earlier and more extensively? Every one of their soldiers had already been equipped with various event weapons and sabers as early as last year.
Taking equitable action against all violators, or re-evaluating the permanent bans imposed on a minority of players, would constitute the fair approach expected by the player community. Failure to do so will only provoke further doubt and dissatisfaction

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I would have agreed with You 2 years before when the Game was actually filled with more players

Now this feels like pre merge tunisia
And im asking You is worth to waste our time on a Game that is alredy dying? The last matches I’ve played to being capable to talk on forum those games were nothing but boring steamrolls against bots and very rarely an uptier that oh wait is a bot with more luck…

I don’t wish anyone to once have fun on a videogame and then turn it into a repetive boring nonsense that feeling is just… Weird … Like visiting your own Home after it gets hit by a nuclear bomb just to see their ruins

I Guess thats the only Bad thing i can found on that but once again the booster exploit is fixed and it’s not like that developers can just remove all the silver and weapons and thats it problem fixed and balance restored

It’s the fault of developers and testers who seems to not play the Game anymore they we’re supposed to find these garbage exploits but seems they are more likely a background decoration

If i we’re a dev or community manager i would have hired these guys to find more exploits in exchange of telling them to not doing anything like that ever again

And they are rigth after all Deus we can’t deny this Game is spaguetti code with pretty textures and graphics trying to hide it all along with a Game direction that slowly drag us deeper hole

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But more importantly it’s was good to kill the veterans ppl who still have faith and fun with this Game and ppl who spent money on it?

Because i knew part of the banned ppl they had premiums and stuff like that or just we’re fanatical able to give every piece of their hearts to the Game

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I don’t think losing even 20 veteran players like that will hurt the project at all. Those exact kind of people. They’ve already bought everything they were ever gonna buy. Honestly, players like that even do a little damage to the game—they roll in huge squads and scare off newbies. They put themselves above everyone else, and that’s exactly why they got punished.

Yeah, there are tons of issues, and I’m not white-knighting the game by any means—it disappoints all of us. But like a samurai, there is no goal, only the path. Maybe Active Matter flops and they shift some resources back to Enlisted. Maybe they merge us into War Thunder as an infantry mode or something. There’s still a tiny bit of hope left.

Overall I expect nothing from the game, that’s why I never get disappointed. The Steam online actually went up a bit these past few days, like +500 players. I’ve seen tons of projects die, so this doesn’t scare me at all. The most important thing is to enjoy the moment, hang out with friends, and play while the game hasn’t completely gone to shit yet. That’s life—nothing lasts forever (except human stupidity, that’s truly infinite).

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its not like clans do the same bruh,( but this time on steroids)

welp i agree on that

but from my part i would still reminding Gaijin to fix their game until any of 2 possibilities happen or just the game dies at all…

I am not blind, hence why I’m not letting you stumble in the dark without giving a warning to you

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Because my friends list is basically empty after this ban, playing the game without friends is really boring! Playing with friends makes me happy. They took advantage of a mechanic, but isn’t that how your system was designed? If you said it was a loophole, why didn’t you fix it back then? Instead, you made players pay the price. This just shows that your game mechanics are like this, and what you’re saying is completely unreasonable. Affecting game fairness? Come on! Equipment has levels that you designed. If it’s about differences in equipment, then what about gold squads and weapons? What really affects fairness is cheating! Not your so-called money farming loophole—it only affects your revenue. You have never truly understood your players!

And why did you act immediately after the discount event? Isn’t this maliciously cash-grabbing? From what I understand, most banned players spent a lot of money during this discount event. This move makes me feel like the player experience is not important. In China, many games that have shut down collected a wave of money from players first, then announced closure. This includes the game [War Thunder] which you previously let us operate. Any game can eventually come to an end, but that’s not a valid excuse! They should be punished, but not with a ban! If every behavior leads to a ban, then in the recent zombie event, if more than half the players exploited bugs, does that mean you would ban more than half the players? So don’t use the excuse of fairness! You only act when your interests are harmed, but a player’s interests don’t count?

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Developer history tells the story here. These guys were permanently banned because it was the easiest and quickest fix.

But at least they are consistent. Even when they administer justice, it is broken and imbalanced.

These developers do not deserve their fans.

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I don’t think they have fans at all

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Im against cheating and exploits, but I admit that those are very tempting once you learn about them.
The perma bans were too much indeed, especially when their stuff simply could be reverted

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This isn;t game breaking. It might be cheesy, but doesn’t make it unfair. Its no worse than vehicle cycling.

I saw the devs fixed the booster problem, if you can fix this so easy , what are you doing so far? just let it be?
why people wanna use this mechanism to gain silver? If you check profile of those banned players. most of them have full BR completely well armed of all 4 camps.
They have played this game so long . they just farm sliver for the silver chest try to get some event weapon saber etc.
you guys just closed the way using gold to buy a BP weapon and start put things in silver chest which have extremely low chance to get a proper useful BP/event weapon. some people just want it, why not open channels for direct purchase those weapons and set it a maximum limit like 12 for assault rifle or 9 for MGs with people can set up 3 trooper squad
Just set a proper price and rise chance of getting weapon in silver chest then everyone can be happy. I’m sure those banned player or other Chinese player well pay for that…

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The reality is other devs Saw that the exploit screwed the economy (profits) and fixed it at the speed of the liigth

I swear that if they exploit afected lets Say the balance/Game mechanics or things like that it would have lasted 3 months more

The devs seems to only care about profits and not giving propper content or fixing the problems the current product alredy has

But pointing out to the devs Will lead us to end like parrot or dregomz who Said that before and welp there are their graves as a reminding to always be yes man to the devs…

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