Not being able to place Anti Personel mines on Rally Points

They’re already a pain to deal with, because some people love to throw it around like breadcrumbs, dying just because you spawned on a Rally Point and not being able to prevent that or knowing that is even worse. I suggest NOBODY should be able to put one on either your own or anyone else’s Rallies.

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you can place your own mine on your rally.

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I don’t like it but doing it is a valid strategy and shouldn’t be removed just because it can be annoying. Badly placed Rally Points being mined is a failing of the team who’s rally was mined, not of the people who mined it.

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I didn’t realize you could do it for a long time till I saw someone’s Youtube video about doing it. I think it was Major McDonald’s video pointing out how smart it was. :joy: I’ve done it, however someone usually destroys the rally point before I get any benefit from it. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Not really. if the greyzone was literally just infront of cap point.
Leaving no room for defenderd between cap and attackers spawnpoint, then arguably one could argue that due to fact that you need gorilla unit to get into attackers zone it would be a entirely different conversation.

But since the radios are usually build close as possible to cap to get best results, which leads to defenders mining the radios as they can push way past cap point.
Its just toxic as fk, and absolutely ridiculous that it havent got fixed yet considering how easy its for defenders anyway.

And yes, I do and will abuse this absolutely ridiculous toxic sht mechanic untill they fix it.

A mined rally is a symptom.

A symptom that the rally is placed too aggressively close to the frontline and/or that the enemy team has players who are competent enough to hunt for them.

The former can be addressed by placing rallies further back.

Though there is no fixing a skill/equipment mismatch in the latter case. Sometimes, the enemy team is just better.

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Skill issue

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totally agree this shit is cancer

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if you are stupid for plant in a bad spot and die for mine its your deserved punishment

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I’m on the fence about it, it’s a valid strategy. This is a game about outsmarting the rival team, so this is something that should and will be used. To some this is mandatory to mine them every chance they see. Mine every single rally, make rally spawns a risk and make the enemy fear not using better spawns.

But on the same token, they should be nerfed a bit. Maybe give the team that spawns a 0.2 second of explosive protection when using them or place the spawn distance that a squad has when using them. That way it’s not a death sentence every time you spawn. It will assure the rally is destroyed for being placed in the wrong spot without killing the entire squad every single time.

It’s a tricky solution to a mechanic that shouldn’t go away.

Either way, it don’t bother me I never go right to the object and place one. I’m usually 50-90 meters out in well hidden places.

just put your own AP mine on your own rally, easy fix

for extra shits and giggles, put an AT mine on it as well

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Never bothered me being rally mined… 3x rifleman squad ftw

also mining your own rally isn’t a fix either… all it does is kill one person MAYBE and will only destroy the rally if they placed it as the mine went off which has only happened to me once.

Otherwise the next dude which with 9 man squads isn’t hard just runs up and mines it next.

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That strategy is very toxic and I really hate those who do this and you shouldn’t do this but that’s a part of the game, it make the game feel chaotic

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Perhaps we all need to change our perspective as to what spawn points actually are: They are enemy assets, no different than APCs or tanks. You should be able to destroy them like other enemy asset, but you should also be able to mine them, as well—like other enemy assets. Sometimes when I find an enemy APC I won’t destroy it; instead, I’ll place AP mines around it to wound or kill enemy soldiers who spawn on it. Other times, I’ll just blown it up. Spawn points should be treated no differently.

Furthermore, in my opinion, there have been far too many nerfed weapons in this game from people who were simply annoyed from the way they died. Instead of using better strategies and tactics, their solution was to whine on the forum until the weapon that killed them got nerfed. This needs to stop. Placing mines on spawn points (or APCs, etc.) is a valid tactic, no matter how annoying it is to you. AP mines aren’t even a guaranteed kill any more due to people whining—and they should be.

Smal tip though, mine your own rally, this not to get kills, but to prevent enemies from mining yours.

I also see a lot of people arguing that mining a rally is a ‘strategy’ (stretching the definition of strategy but ah well). I do not believe this is valid though …
A team already get punished by the rally getting destroyed by the enemy. So, you are already punished as a team, a player has to spend time to rebuild the rally in which time the team misses an extra spawnpoint. So, your already punished for losing the rally.
Its also just cheap, its not something that can be countered, it just happens with no indication beforehand. When there are shots or players nearby, a rally goes inactive because it is dangerous, it is therfore expected that if this is not the case, that it is at least decently safe (unless a tank is lining up a shot)

My suggestion would be that the AP mine just destroys the rally, not by exploding, but just by demolishing it. The rally goes down because it has been mined with the mine remaining to keep the area unsafe for potential new rallies.

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There are plenty of maps where you can’t just build your rallies anywhere. Even if you dig down, people will see a bunch of soldiers popping out of the ground. I often hunt rallies and APC’s myself and I never mine a rally nor do I wait for people to spawn in the APC before blowing it up. It was cleary done as a way of farming points. That’s it.

I don’t want the AP mine to be nerfed. Just don’t be able to place them on active rallies. You should still be able to place them around wherever you want to, but then at least if I run into it, it was my fault for not noticing it and shooting it from a distance.

I’m with you, ap mining is an annoying strategy, but my primary issue is that often times, the game itself stops me from doing anything about it. I can’t tell you how many times I KNOW an enemy is gunning for a rally point but when I try to respawn on it to stop them, “Active battle nearby, no spawn lmao” and I get to sit and watch the rally get mined or destroyed even though I could’ve easily stopped it.

I’d like to see the rallies reworked to where you aren’t blocked from spawning on them because enemies are nearby instead merely warned that enemies are nearby. I, the player, should be able to decide if I wanna spawn on a potentially dangerous rally instead of the game arbitrarily deciding that I can’t. I know this won’t directly solve your complaint, but imo, it’d at least reduce the frustration.

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just make it so soldiers spawn in a bit of a spread across some area on a rally instead of right on top of it, it looks so silly, especially when you shoot at the rally, they just appear one in another and flow outside like some volcano of soldiers, just make them appear within like 5 meters or something

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Funnily enough you can spawn on APC’s while there’s an “Active Battle nearby”, not sure why that’s different either.

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