Normandy campaign’s vehicles are skewed to favor the Allies by a ridiculous margin. The key vehicle I see being spammed to no end is the P-47D rocket/bomber. The instant one is available to spawn I see it in the air because why wouldn’t the Allies want a plane that outperforms every single German plane. The only exception that I can think of is the bf109 G10 has slightly better turn time by about 2 seconds, but it still is able outrun, and outmaneuver every German plane, including fighters, with a massive 10 rocket payload.
As for tanks, they skew heavily in favor of Allies too. The most used for the Allies has to be the Sherman Jumbo. The fact that it is so heavily armored against AT weaponry from any angle unless it’s aimed at its direct side makes it at times impossible to deal with. Usually the only option for all the German tanks is to either shoot it in it’s machine gun port, or take out its gun. Both equally small targets, and with the amount of debris prevalent on the map that eat tank shells and AT rockets, could also be an impossibility to hit. Plus I’ve seen some savvy Jumbo players bush up their machine gun port, what an excellent concept to bring over from Warthunder…
In comparison, the Tiger E is able to be destroyed (quite easily might I add) by M8 rockets which you can find on the P-38, the Allies starting plane. (Though more likely you’d be rocketed by a P-47D) And, although I haven’t bought any of the special premium vehicle squads, there looks to be such a disparity to them as well. The allies have specialized Jumbos, Fireflies that can contend with any Tiger, Sherman Calliopes, whereas the Germans have an 8mm armored rocket Half-track. Seems a bit unfair.
Granted I haven’t progressed far in the Allied campaign to try out any of these vehicles, but I have finished the German campaign, and every time I’ve gotten in a tank or plane I feel helplessly outgunned. Would like to hear what others think.
The Bf 110 can do everything a P-47 can do if you have enough skill to use it, and Bf 109s are more maneuverable than American planes at low speeds, while having one of the few unscuffed engines in the game, so if you can’t do dogfights with the heavier American planes in those, that’s all on you. The Fw 190 flies like the American planes with a stronger roll rate, so if you can’t fly that you won’t be able to do anything in an American plane. As for the rockets themselves, Germans have larger rockets but in fewer numbers, and the Americans have smaller rockets in larger numbers. The ratio in terms of raw explosive mass goes about 1 WFR = 1.5-2 HVARs = 3 M8 rockets. Yes this means the Americans have more control over where more of their explosives go, but that is part of the calculus of balance that allows Normandy to remain balanced. The general rule of thumb is that Allies get better aircraft, Axis gets better tanks with a major exception for both sides just to keep things interesting. In the case of Aircraft, the Ju 188 is the one that breaks the mold.
Tanks are completely skewed in terms of Axis with the exception of the level where Jumbo matches Panzer IV H (the exception for tanks I mentioned earlier), every other case the German tank is on par, strictly better than the allied counterpart, or both tanks are completely useless to the point where any difference between them doesn’t matter much. Yes, Allies do have the ability to fight German armor with their own armor, but that’s because while both sides of Normandy have their clear advantages in their respective area, the devs did not make it so that they are unbeatable in that area. Thus, US tanks can kill German tanks with a bit more effort, and German planes can fight US planes if the German pilot is competent enough to fly his plane correctly.
I don’t often play Normandy, ( I’m like lvl 19, no jumbo, no p-47, Lvl 14 germany no tigers etc)
The few times I have recently it has been a decent scrap on both sides.
AS germany, While the p-47 player was wrecking, it wasn’t enough to stop us on the ground.
As America, While our P-47 player was wrecking, We got no where for ages until I took my lowbie Piat squad around the flank, slapped the tiger and slipped right into their pile of rallies. Rinse and repeat and we won (granted I do have firefly, tempest and paras :P, I just dont know the maps so often make a misstep)
Also to take top place by a LONG way, without any of those vehicles/planes.
Axis have better tanks, and Allies have ok tanks.
Allies have better planes, and Axis have ok planes.
In the hands of competent operators, both are death dealing weapons of mass destruction.
The thing is why American rockets can ohk German tanks like they are made of paper while German planes can’t even kill American tanks when they are supposed to have more powerful rockets?
Germans get the 110 at level 4
If anything that’s unfair more than the Jug which is near the end of the campaign tree
Or the 188 with 6x 250kg bombs and an utter fantasy flight model, but even that’s more forgiveable
German CAS is more than capable of killing US tanks, you just have to aim it correctly. Same could be said for the US CAS, except the US has smaller rockets closer to the fuselage, leading to less drop and convergence making it easier for most to learn.
The fact in Normandy today is that at a distance of more than 100 meters, infantry weapons such as PIAT and Satchel charge can not deal with tigers very well (especially those who are hard to hit on the hills), 57mmAT can not break through its front, and tanks such as M4 also have difficulties because of their armor piercing restrictions. The rest is only to rely on P38 and P47 to use rockets and bombs to eliminate threats, No - perhaps it can be said that this is the only way to solve them, and it is also one of the reasons why the alliance camp has always been very passive
Absolutely not. These “buff Germany” posts are really annoying.
Yes, the Americans have the P47 and the jumbo. But to say that the Allies have a vehicle advantage is just factually wrong, if for no other reason that you get the Tiger, and soon will get the King Tiger. Both of these tanks outperform all allied tanks by a wide margin.
A player in the best tank, the M4 76, only has a chance if they have the element of surprise. All other tanks except the M18 are dead meat. The Jumbo may be able to withstand a few Tiger hits, but it is severely outgunned.
You also get an effective attack plane in the beginning of the campaign, the US doesn’t until level 20. The P38 is unlocked earlier and is good, but its rockets are really only effective against tanks. And that advantage is needed to help newer players deal with grey zone camping Tigers and Panthers.
No. The Firefly and prem Jumbo are still outgunned against the tiger.
Ah yes, let’s just forget that the halftrack is far smaller than the Calliope and is actually concealable. The Calliope is literally impossible not to notice.
So, no dude.
This is a major problem with your logic. It sounds like you’re just a faction exclusive main, and you need to play both sides before making a post like this.
Germany has a powerful air superiority fighter, FW190.
Possesses powerful tanks, Panther and Tiger.
Possess automatic weapons that surpass allied forces in an all-round way.
And you can do this with pretty much every tank.