due the fire i might try to extiguish some fire
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The lion doesn’t concern himself with the delusions of the “PC master race”
The console wars haven’t been relevant since the early 2000’s. Grow up kid.
And how am I defending it to death?? All I’m saying is majority of you crying about body armour hide behind it as an excuse for losing. When in reality you are beaten by a team that is just better than you.
Also HLL Germans have a Bolt action for their primary vs an M1 so how is that balanced? WW2 wasn’t balanced IRL and that’s evident by the amount of prototypes that Japan has in this game to even stay relevant. Soviets employed body armour more than any other country so they are entitled by historical accuracy to have it.
easy people, just be polite. and don,t berbecue me has well. this just a game. please read the 2.0 Suggestion. and get a better more structured ideia.
thanks.
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best to not concern yourself with such controversial topics if you care… it will always end the same
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Because at least on the time My PC was able to Hold HLL i never was killed one shooted by a M1 garand it always was 2 shot unless i got hit on the head or i was wounded
Also 98k has high precision on HLL very fucking high…
Yea…
“Insert clip of getting me getting killed by a guy on the other side of the map at 450m”
This is Game and games are supposed to be fun for everyone and since You bring body armor into this conversation
I should point out that the IRL body armor was only able to stop pistols round not high calibers
Also the body armor was additional weigth additional effort to carry shouldnt be “historically accurate” to also debuff them if You want soooo much HA?
Shouldnt be logical that a stamina drain must be added? Or at least make it usable against pistols?
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The M1 in HLL has always been a 1 shot kill….
Have you not read my comments further above where I’m saying that i agree it needs a speed or stamina debuff….?
And since when does armour stop any projectiles in this game??
If the game was 100% equal on every side then there would be no reason to play other factions. It may as well be red vs blue.
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Dude everysingle proposal to body armor i’ve saw since i entered to this forum u we’re against it
Even decard a SOVIET FANATIC was on favor of debuffing body armor in some way but You You literally have been holding the same 3 arguments
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You mean calling out people who use it as an excuse to cope? My argument is that it’s no where near as big of an injustice as all you people cry about.
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See TF2
See CS
See proyect reality?
These games are somewhat different but balanced You always have a refreshing feeling while playing
It does and has been proved many times by the dataminers and sweats hell Even My clan did it
Not comments so but if something i guarantee is that 98k is better on HLL at least on medium large ranges
And because i love its sigths
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Tecnically You saying that You are a “troll”
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Or maybe it’s indicative of someone willing to adapt and overcome versus plead for change.
Which in a lot of applications might not be the best… in no way is it shameful to want things to change for the greater good.
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Or you’re just bad at the game….
None of those games are even similar to this game….
Armour doesn’t stop any projectile in this game, it just adds a tiny bit of damage reduction.
The M1 will always be superior in HLL because of the follow up shot if you miss. 98K if you miss your first shot then you’re done for.
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Reduction which Even skilled players are aware of and depending on bullets speed ping reaction time and weapon damage are more noticiable or not
And then we see than Even tho ping is on favor and skill is practically the same the difference is noticiable and if You still live on a bubble we can test it and Even PVP
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I’m just going to squash all your coping mechanisms in 1 more comment man, as I’m tired of constantly dealing with this.
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The reduction is barely noticeable. You either have to be autistic with calculating or watch your game footage slowed down. The game is too fast paced to notice and the slow BR 1 gameplay bolt actions 1 hit kill them anyway. You will never notice it above BR 3 and the only weapon that I see constantly brought up is the G41. Do people not know how to fire a subsequent round after the first one? I know you PC nerds can click your mouse fast so do the normal thing and keep clicking until you see the kill marker….
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It still costs appearance orders in which if you play every faction and every BR like I do, you’ll never have enough orders to fully kit out every one of your Soviets with armour.
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The average player doesn’t stack vitality + body armour on all their soldiers. I rarely (and I’m talking with thousands of hours of play time) see someone with armour on all their soldiers. Yes I’m aware they are out there but they are most likely Soviet mains.
Yes i acknowledge that it is the slightest advantage. But it’s really not that deep. Stop crying, play the game and hopefully the devs will add a slight speed penalty to taking it (LIKE I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR). But in no way do I want it removed all together nor do I want the reduction gone. Soviets employed it in mass so it’s fair that it is represented like it is. The game would be boring if it was 100% A symmetrical.
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Too insignificant a debuff for too big an advantage.
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i migth i agree that bolties doesnt seem affected by that but is the obvious and if something more OBVIOUS IS THAT NOBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT IT, let me bring you more examples of something else than G41:
oh wait the list is so long lets just summarize than almost 95% of smgs on this game need 1 more bullets and if these are even more cursed even 2
all people shot consequest round after another EVEN THE ONES WITH ARMOR and guess what even if we both shoot at the same time and same weapon one bullet more is one bullet more you cant deny that
yea “never” thats the worst excuse when it comes to body armor
Do i have to remind You that customization orders are one of the most common ítems?
so you havent ever face a competent player from your own words? if nobody of ur enemies has ever used vitality that means you only play against consoles or very easy games with no Challenge at all
Even devs Made body armor Obvious so by pure basic knowledge anyone can Guess that vitality + armor are better
OH WAIT? Repeat play against consoles
Wasnt that TRUE?? and Even on low BR?
LOLOLOL imagine playing only against consolid My friend and then having the rigth to call Even clan players useless bots
Only 1 of the 3 arguments we’re midly valid You only cherry pick situations that are suitable to You to prove that “body armor is insignificant”
You to boring come and pvp me if You are so insane at the game
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Did you not read my comment to the last nerd that looked up my replays? 
I’ve barely been active over the last few weeks yet you think I’m not experiencing the same game as you because I have been playing with console only on for a short time? Are you that close minded that you think console players are a different breed or that we are playing a completely different game getting a different experience?
Okay list the so called weapons that are suffering? Oh wait you mean an SMG that has a high fire rate with a capacity of 30-40 that needs 1 measly extra round. That’s an even more pathetic cope than the G41 excuse.
There’s never ever going to be an exact even gunfight, someone is always going to shoot first so that argument is pointless.
Sorry that you find the facts boring, happy to PvP you when I’m out of hospital. Even with the high amount of fentanyl that I’m on i guarantee that no amount of body armour is going to make you win or win by much 
the rof matters into certain point after 600-700 there are more factors that decide who wins those figths specially damage which decides the majority of results for some reason SF rifles are the top weapons
also mag size? yea bro ofc im gonna shot the “mag itself” to the enemy doesnt matter the mag of a gun im talking about the bullet performance whats the point of having 150 bullets when you shoot peas and not even at a high speed aka LAD
i read all your arguments and just said nah bro let me see by myself how “good” this guy is to even call crying babies ppl who know milimetrically how this game works
since when did i called all console players garbage? i know some good players on console to the point where they have managed to put an insane figth to even the best PC players
what im pointing out of you is that by playing only against console only makes u fit in the same nonsense of “average console players” that heres comes and actual fact "that meme among community just focus on players that dont wanna realize their problems at the game and minimally improve to get out of there or at least live with it (aka paradivision mindset)
thats a fact but having higher chances to win a gun figth regardless of your skill and more likely focused on abusing certain mechanics is something to adress
and more being that “easy and spammeable” what if even tho u pulled the trigger first u get killed by someone who casually resist more shoots than u? that happens and a lot to even insanelly skilled players is just that people like you live on that bubble that they are just “Crying babies” " that never happened" “Get better blah blah blah”
an adventage is an adventage regardless how ppl understimate it, i can tell from other experiences where ppl were arguing over “non significant stuff” but suddendly oooo wow"this is meta" “this is peak” “this is everything” and this game inst an exception i can tell that for sure
yea BrO i oNlY sAy WiSe wOrDs TrUst Me
facts you say?, have you ever read the enlisted spreedsheets? there is where the actual “facts” come from, if you think that ur common sense is better than the actual facts then this conversation has even more nonsense than before
and if i really found this conversation that boring i woulnt have even tried to reply by just watching the nonsense these statements said
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