5% sprint bonus for no body armor, plus 2% spint speed for no helmet. fair? yeah.
don,t take me down i use Body armor, but give some credit to wieght. there a fair and realistic ways of balance armor vs no armor. and one of then is giving speed bonus or speed reduction for armored infantry.
cheers.
just to shown how i can lost by my own suggestion.
Just gonna vote no since the 5% makes 0 differency.
Give a bigger debuff to speed when wearing armor.
More like you’re gonna vote no because it doesn’t involve removing the reduction entirely.
Body armor protection should be completely removed. Customization should not affect balance!
Agreed.
Armour should get a stamina drain penalty or speed debuff but helmets shouldn’t get anything. It’s not hard to run in a helmet.
No. It barely makes a difference.
How is a diffrence between a 1 shot or 2 shot to down from a semi auto rifles “barely a diffrence”?
This changes a lot.
It’s called pulling the trigger again, you should try it.
So my 10 round semi gets turned effectively into a 5 round rifle AKA why dont you just use a bolt action rifle instead…
Well but with dispersion, recoil or just lag my second shot might not always connect with the target if the target isnt just standing still waiting to be shot
Do I really have to tell you to keep pulling the trigger until the target drops? Normal people in this game do that without complaining. In the 5-6 years of me playing this game, I’ve never had an issue with fighting the soviets because of armour/vitality.
Then go play with the nagant revolver instead. It is in no way underpowered.
You just have to keep pulling the trigger until the target drops.
That soundy like great logic to me…
Terrible comparison, but i usually aim for the head when I use the negant revolver. You should try that too.
Body Armor(if not removed completly) should be in the backpack slot. So you have to decide between more ammo, grenades, two guns or the armor
I actually like this idea but the argument with that is how will it be purchased? If for silver then it becomes way more common which all the coping whiners will complain about even more. At least appearance orders are somewhat harder to obtain.
Maybe increase stamina drain by 100%, and giving 15% less sprint speed?
i know this nunbers can be match by some perks, but this make it realistic since a well phisic condition allow you to carry such equipement.
Dont underestimate the importance of total ammo, people have been quite vocal about that in the past.
That being said, the flat damage reduction should get reworked so that the armor only protects the front torso, only has an effect against pistol rounds and doesn’t influence rifle rounds at all.
If we go the extra mile in realism several approaches can make sense.
First, arguably those plates could survive multiple SMG or pistol hits without the target taking any damage - depending on bullet velocity and distance of course. This would be a very big balance issue obviously and as such body armor should come with reasonable penalties.
Maybe crouching could be made much slower, cuz armor can make it very awkward changing position.
Maybe armor could actually give an ADS speed penalty or even a recoil penalty - while those plates do have a “cut out” for shouldering a gun, it still restricts rifle positioning a bit.
Ammo could get limited of course as said above.
And about movement penalties… I personally wouldn’t reduce sprint speed, but rather general movement speed, to make the armor feel a bit sluggish during fighting.
Or instead of going full crazy, we just give armor a simple 10% movement speed penalty and call it a day.
You make really valid points that i agree with. I think movement penalty is the way it needs to get balanced.
