New MM. Some concerns and necessary balances changes

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Yes because the BR is max weight if you buy a high-end premium squad like gold coin ppd40 stz you are sended aganaist a KT2 even if you have only a ptrd

Nah , new player can still learn different map in solo costum match

Japan get relegate on 1 map and half, figthing low/mid-end US player gonna kill the Japanese faction player in the long term

One of the point of the update is unify the playerbase, japanese playerbase instead remain splitted by the rest

Solution:
Make a generic allaies vs axis matchmaking and let all faction play on all map

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No. There is still BR.
You can go “low BR Berlin”: MP-40, MG-42, Pz IV H or “high BR Berlin”: STG, MG-42 patronentrommel, Tiger 2.

The only difference with the “default” proposed MM is that you have 3 era correct loadouts without ime travelling gear.

We are back to the starting point. This is tiresome because we need to consider br and era.

You don’t need to consider the era, the game simply won’t have STG available for selection in Early and Mid (greyed out).

Having 3 era presets is even easier than manually changing every weapon on every soldier every time you want a new experience.
(the devs said nothing about introducing loadouts for BR so far)

Your statement is purely based on dev will not implement loadout for Br and there are several loadout if you use weapon according to era. Because like you said changing every weapon manually if you want different br experience, this can also be apply to using weapon according to era. They can force you to change your weapon manually every time if you want a different era. And you also said there will be high and low br for a era, then how many loadout will it be?

You choose which BRs you want for early, mid and late.

They haven’t mentioned anything about that.
So I am naturally curious if we will have to re-equip the whole army before every match to get a new experience.

My point is that the helpers say “people come to play, not sit in menus”, but that means manual re-equipment before every match.
And if they do introduce loadouts, then it would make perfect sense to divide them by eras, eliminating time travelling, and thus also featuring different BRs.

I don’t think helpers have internal news, this is only their speculation.

As I said earlier dividing things by era and br is still more complicated than only dividing things by br.

I’m not suggesting division by era and br. Just by era. And each era loadout has a br.

3 loadouts. You pick your weapons/br for each of them. No time travelling equipment and only appropriate maps are loaded.

You still need to manually change the equipment if you want different br experience in each era.

There is no way to completely eliminate manual change of equipment, as far as I can think of.

However, at least with 3 era loadouts you’ll always have 3 BRs you can easily switch between and be placed to era appropriate maps.

well thompson+garand+BAR are all prewar weapons and they are all mid or high BR rated weapons… and there are couple of other weapons that are similarly OP/UP that dont fit balance/period.

someone suggested loadouts in first topic and keo said he will pass it on to the developers (cause probably good idea).

Nah, they could add invasion of machuria so they would fight Soviets as well. This isn’t problem imho.

They need to balance BR of those premium squads,for example:
AS-44 should never be of same BR as STG-45(M), since it’s much more powerful gun with higher dps, zero recoil with pixel accuracy during bipoding, faster muzzle velocity and only cons being 0.4sec slower reload (which is laughable cons).
STG-45(M) should fight only PPD-40 and SVT-38, while AS-44 (and Fedorov and AVT-40) should only fight highest BR German weapons like MP43/1, Conders, Sniper StG44, FG42II.

I wonder what are they going to do with MP-714(r) since everyone that are finished with Stalingrad can buy as many as they want. Am i going to be able to use those in Normandy and destroy Americans with yet another super powerful gun? They have zero counter against STGs and FGs and now PPSh lmao.

What about Dickermax? Bring that vehicle to Normany and one shot any US tank at any time plus nuke entire squads with well placed HE.

Jagdpanther in Normandy what’s going to counter it? Yeah nothing besides planes.

PZ3N in Tunisia doesn’t have Heat while at same time PZ3N in Stalingrad has Heat.

Now imagine situation with new balance and you want to use your 2 Pacific squads - LVT and Thompson and game puts you into Normandy match against Axis just because you have Thompson that has mid tier BR now you will have fight against PZ4J, PZ4H, MG34s, FG2s, Mp40s and Berettas. Sounds fun right? You won’t able to pen anything with your crappy 37mm cannon and your guns will be outgunned by anything but mp40, then after 2 deaths you will spawn in A13 and spend rest of the match killing planes because all of your gear is useless (if you have bar then you will have to fight vs mp43/1, stolen ppshes, fg42s still and Panthers + Tigers good luck with that)

Those are just few examples game will be a mess after the update i can see that and more much more (like indestructible Matilda or Churchill in Pacific)

Nah, all those weapons should be on same tier/BR. We dont need special tier/BR for every weapon. It would not help to MM as well.

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Like i said it’s inferior to every single weapon of that same category so either lower it’s BR or buff it, same with golden weapon order mkb42(w) that is also inferior. I guess you want Soviets to always be the best nation in a game.

My main idea is to prevent Kriegsmodel and MP 3008 appearing on Moscow maps against 1891 Mosin and PPD-34 as “low BR”.

Same with PPSh-41, KV-1, etc. These would be “early war” high BR.
But KV-1 wouldn’t be available for selection in “late war” loadouts.

Avoid time travel but enable all weapons to be used somewhere. Otherwise no one will ever touch MP 3008.

Anyway, this is history/immersion debate again and we have threads for that.

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Yeah it is. But germans would have better tanks on that tiers. Thats reality. It shouldn’t be balanced like I don’t know what. It’s completely unrealistic.

The more things you’ll have on same tier, the better. More variety and it’ll help to mm.

i think this is low price to pay for balanced matches. you either compromise balance or compromise HA. out of those 2 i would rather have balanced matches cause there are plenty of early war weapons that have high BR, but rather low number of mid/late war weapons that have low (or lower) BR than their counterparts (only that i could remember are mp 3008 and m3/m3a1). usually late war weapons have higher BR than their previous counterpart so you wont be compromising HA much in those cases.

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Absolutely not, this is the bulk price of the deal.
Balance can be achieved within immersion, and it is the devs job to brainstorm this.

VG 1-5 and MP 3008 are late war weapons, they need to stay in Berlin; T-50 is a decent tank, but it should not be in Berlin.

Sure, soviet smg’s having recoil similar to ak47 in csgo.
Quite sure majority doesnt want this just to maintain nonexistent HA.

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