and hvars arent ?
Well they can do exactly same as the 500kg bombs, deal with 2 tanks on 1 run.
Granted, that now you actually have to hit close to tank. If it was replaced with 2x 100kg that require almost a direct hit it would be significantly different.
Does it also make the messerschmitt roughly equal to meteor regarding air combat ?
That had nothing to do with what I said. Put aside these stupid factional prejudices.
It could have carried two 500kg bombs, but they simply didn’t give them to the Me 262.
Even if they remove 2-4 HVAR, the P-47 will still be the best fighter-bomber in the game.
Don’t change the subject. This was a comparison between the Meteor and the Me 262. I was trying to say that they are balanced. And the P47 is a counter to the KT.
Finally, I didn’t understand whether you prefer one 500kg or two 250kg.
As I said. The Meteor doesn’t have a 30mm cannon. If the Me262 can fly as well as the Meteor, the game is unbalanced.
Well, they replaced the 1000lb bomb on the Meteor with a 500lb. So that would be stupid.
I have already said everything that was necessary about the P47.
Gotcha, so 30mm that has ~0-2m blast radius ( Not even sure is this the Mk108 on 262 ) is equal to single handedly dealing with the tank supremacy of opposite faction with meteor ?
In what sense ? Currently the Me262 is the only BR5 worthy plane while murrica has plenty of them.
I said it, I’ll say it again. If you think two 250kg bombs make a big difference to one 500kg bomb, ask for something similar for the Me262.
So my general point is this. If you don’t understand I won’t continue the discussion with you:
The Me262 is relatively balanced against the Meteor.
The P47 is also a counter to the KT. Even with the fact that the Germans can bring two KTs to the battlefield!
Its the differency of having capability to deal with 2 tanks aka entire enemy teams tanks or capability to deal with 1 tank.
Relatively in what sense ? If you throw equally skilled pilots in air the meteor will come up as winner probably majority of times, leaving it to deal with the 2 super op KT’s while the P47 is free to do what ever it wants.
Since there really isnt a single attacker on GE tree that could challenge P47 in firepower or aircombat.
Even less the meteor.
And the premise of having a plane as counter to KT would be fine if only there was no other way to deal with it.
Theres AT guns, AT weapons, detpack,tnt,at mine & even other tanks to deal with tank.
While against air the only counter is BR1 AA gun that requires a specific squad or another plane which isnt even remotely comparable to meteor.
Incorrect. The Meteor has a turn rate of 13 seconds, the same as a Spitfire, while the Me 262 has a turn rate of 18 seconds, if I’m not mistaken. Simply put, for aerial combat, the Meteor is better and achieves total supremacy in protecting allied attack aircraft, unlike the Me 262.
It’s not a fair comparison because Meteor can destroy Tiger 2H while the latter cannot destroy Meteor
The standards of German manes are very strange. When it comes to the Soviet BR3 against Germany, the air force is of no use and the battle is decided by the tanks. And when we come to the Americans, the game is in the hands of the planes.
But if you just have to go there, KV is arguably the hardest tank to kill on the game.
And unfortunately there isnt ME262 to deal with it at low BR’s.
There indeed is quite significant differency between BR3 tanks firepower and BR5 planes.
Well, as I said, there is a 30mm cannon, which is great for countering infantry. Meteor doesn’t have that.
And KT can easily bully infantry and tanks. This was a positive point, not a one-on-one battle. However, give America something as good as KT and buff your aircrafts.
It makes me laugh that you don’t even try to refute your ridiculous standards.
So if you really want to balance everything 1:1, nerf your good stuff too.
So is the .50 cal on pershings ?
Plane > tank.
Having better tanks is quite irrelevant when they get bombed faster than you can drive out of spawn.
I also find it funny how you were earlier so against switching subject and here you are.
Sure, latest “balance” additions have benefitted more sovjets & murrica.
T20,hyde, öfenförörör and so on.
So we’re already on that road so either buff the GE air capability to murrican level or nerf murrica.
Yes, 12.7mm bullets that can’t even one shot an infantry.
So if you’re looking to nerf Allied aircraft, consider removing KTH as well, as this is the only way to achieve a 1:1 balance.
Well, let me blame this on our N**i friend.
So the GE 8mm mauser can or what was the point ?
So nerf US airplanes and remove entirely the GE tank ?
Sounds like 1:1 balance.
How come we aint removing the murrican planes too ?
Higher roof? Anyway, it’s realistic that both can do it. In the real world, even 7.62x39 bullets are effective. It’s strange that 7.92x57 bullets can’t kill anyone with one shot in the game. And basically 12.7mm bullets should cut people in half. XD
The whole discussion of calibers in the game is very stupid. Basically, LMGs, semi-automatics, and bolt actions use the same caliber. But the damage is different.
Well, there is KTP. Basically half of the game’s problems arose after the addition of KTH and FG42. Maybe if they hadn’t been added, the game would be a little more realistic now.
Aaand ? Pretty sure the secondary arnament .50cal in this exact case does deal more dmg than GE counterpart on tanks.
So if the 30 on ME is “fine” because its better against infantry but worse on its intended job, not sure how same doesnt apply to tanks MG’s ?
Sure, but .50 still works better on infantry than 8mm mg
Which both have a counter, granted that KT2 is indeed best tank in the game but that hardly is justification for having complete air supremacy.
There has always been a way to deal with KT2 while dealing with air we got BR1 AA gun and worse planes.
These are in noway comparable and doesnt magically balance each other out.
Even less the FG since the T20 imo is better.
Well, I spoke from experience. I flew a lot with the Me262. The 30mm caliber is excellent against infantry and works well against aircraft.
Well, I would never want to risk my commander’s life using that crappy M2 that shoots really slow and doesn’t one shot anyone. But the MG34 does the job just fine. It doesn’t one shot, but it’s fast.
There’s always a way, but it’s hard and costs a lot of soldiers. Same for planes. AA can easily deal with P47. Meteors are tough to deal with and it takes a lot of skill to destroy them with AA, but it’s possible! And of course planes aren’t really indestructible. I’ve shot down many Meteors with the IAR81C. You just have to get close to them from behind or they’ll be stupid and come at you. Anyway, the sky is small here and they don’t have much way to escape you. XD
I used to say this before the FG42 buff. But that’s not the case anymore. The T20 is still more accurate, but the FG42 is more comfortable.