My Thoughts on the Kugelblitz as a german main

After playing with it for a little over a month, it’s OP AF, period. It’s the 2nd most P2W squad after the F-80/A-5. The thing is, why the Kugelblitz specifically? I mean, it would make sense as an event vehicle, but premium? Why didn’t Gaijin just add the Wirbelwind, which would make much more sense? It just feels too overpowered, especially at a downtier (BR2). i once ended with almost 250 kills and 10 vehicle kills. İts nuts.

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Its great in a down tier but if it faces tank of its same BR or higher it really starts to struggle.

If the enemy refuses to make use of their tanks entirely then yea they are asking to have a bad time.

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If you know what you’re doing and you have good teammates, even in BR 5, the tank shreds. Once, there was a US player who kept circulating between the Meteor F, F-80, and P-47, and I got him like 25 times.

My main complaint is the model here. The addition of SPAA was an excellent idea; I was fed up with the US CAS spam, but the Kugelblitz is just too OP. Its 30mm HE rounds can clear buildings easily, while its competitor, the Stink, sucks at it. its just too much. The amount of explosive packs I’ve had thrown at me, only to get away with yellow tracks, is insane. With the Wirbelwind, it would be more fair since it has an open top, making it susceptible to infantry and CAS.

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But then it would just suck compared to the skink which has none of the downsides attached to it.

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can do more damage with a pz 3n btw, yes it’s very pay to win

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None of the downsides? You sure? The Stink can’t clear buildings and can’t take out any tanks at BR 3 (except open-tops), and it has the annoying magazine system that you have to reload every 10 seconds, unlike the Kugelblitz, which is belt-fed. I mean, yes, the Stink would have the advantage of being a closed-top tank. Outside of that, it would be on par with the Wirbelwind.

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A bigger 75mm still has some upsides over the fast 30mm as the bigger HE does reach futher into rooms allowing you to better bounce the explosion of walls and hit soldiers that are in cover aswell.

It really depends on why you are shooting at.
Open ground with entire squad out in the open? 30mm is better
A room with only limited angles to snip into? Or soldiers hidding behind the walls next to the window?
A 75mm can hit the backwall aswell and clear the enire room at once.
Meanwhile the 30mm could .

I believe the 30mm (just like tank in general) seam more OP than they actually are as they excel at killing clueless teams but lose a lot of power against good team were cover /blocked sightlines is used more effectively used.

I don’t know what kind of logic went into this thought… having open ground allows for the HE to have its max effect, whereas the building it would get disrupted a lot… meanwhile you can just spam the window of said building and have less overall HE which is made up by the output.

Read again

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If my HE can only reach something like 2 meters from impact a limited angle might not always allow you to hit targets in cover were the closest hitable wall/ surface is more than 2 meters away ( or entirely missing with the collapsed ruins in normandy for example) and no amount of volume of fire will change that fact.
The 75mm gun just doesnt need to be that close and thuse is less reliant on good line of sight towards the enemy (something open terrain certainly gives).

Dont understand me wrong here, I am not denying that the kugel is strong but I do not share the conclusion that it is ridiculous OP just because the enemy is playing like lemings.

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You said it yourself, the tank is just as strong as pz3n against infantry a tank that had to be bumped to br3 due to how good it is against infantry. Now you have a tank that is just as good as a nerfed tank but can also delete aircraft(s) and tank(s) with in the same single reload as a pz3n.

Granted the targets have to be present but you can literal hop into the tank clear the skies delete apcs and a light armored tank and 2 squads of infantry in a single clip and it isn’t even fucking hard. Sure they will just pick you out and you die but no other tank have THAT much killing power and demands to be answered right away, if we give flame tanks infinite range it would be a problem too and that is basically what you did with the kugel, not sure how that is justified as balanced.

You don’t believe it, give the ta se the same gun stats in a single mount and see how long the game lasts.

they are AA tanks, they should have the same power level relative to their BR

That is incorrect the 3N has the same cannon as every other short 75 panzer 4 still in BR 2.

Also I only said that its as good against infantry that isnt in cover which again doesnt happen as much when the enemy team isnt roleplaying as lemings AKA that kind of match where actual performance matters.

have fun “deleting” all those KV tanks that are beeing spammed constantly…

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not to mention 3n stalingrad is still on BR2.

With heading mark, it’s impossable for enemy plane to break through mk103
It can support both ground and air battle

Kugelblitz is the best possible SPAA in ww2 (expect Coelian), really shouldn’t be BR3
Maybe we’ll just wait DF for joining more TT SPAA than find out Kugelblitz is P2W in it’s tier

Just had a game where a single kugel across the river locked down the game for 700 tickets, our vehicles refused to get off but cant kill the thing everything else got melted. Managed to get the first point to 75% when the damn thing had to reload.

But hey a panzer 3n can do it too right?

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So none of your team tried a plane to bomb it? None thought to move around the sides and make rallies to flank it? Nada?
They all just ran like lemmings onto the point and got wasted?
Sounds like you got idiot team. That doesn’t happen with just the Kugelblitz.
Plenty of times I’ve had games where an Allies or Soviet tank just camps the points with HE. Nobody marks it, nobody flanks, no rallies. You got a dumb team.

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The tank was in the grey zone across the river, no one was gonna get here that. None of the planes got close, one bomb landed near but didn’t kill, tanks also got taken out because it was a BR3 allies game. the tank had garrisons in 3 buildings nearby it was a premade but it was the tank more than anything because we had a chance once it ran out of rounds.

look at the end of the day, it needs a counter, it can’t be good against everything. it is the only tank that does that. so move it to a br where things can kill it with a sneeze or nerf its anti-infantry, or just stop giving it magic anti everything rounds and give it the apcr the gun came with

It’s armor is paper. You could mortar that thing to death.