The Jadgpanther is currently a tank destroyer on BR5 avaliable to Germany, and with recent changes and additions, I belive that it can be moved to BR4. With the major update that came out, the Ferdinand was introduced into the German tech tree, and is much better than the Jadgpanther in performance, with much better survivability due to it’s incredibly thick armor compared to the Jadgpanther. While the Ferdinand has 200mm armor in all the frontal sections which makes it invulnerable to the majority of things in game, the Jagdpanther only has 80mms sloped, which is the same value and near effectively identical to the BR4 Panzer 4/70(V)'s armor layout, which leads to another factor - BR changes. Both the Panzer 4/70 (V) and the Su-100 were both lowered to BR4 to where the M36 is, and these are the most comparable vehicles to the Jagdpanther. And while the gun would be very good, the normal Panther’s gun is very high penning as is to the point the difference isn’t very huge (Panther’s long 75 APCBC has 192mm pen, while the long 88 APCBC has 234mm pen) while not having some the downsides of the Jagd. Version, which in exchange for said downsides (casemate, no roof MG, ect.) gets better penetration and HE for it’s gun, and a bit more survivability. So for those reasons, I propose lowering the Jagdpanther to BR4.
Should the Jagdpanther be moved to BR4?
EDIT: apparently Major just said it will be forwarded on a news post
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The jagdpanthar is borderline as its armor is either puny or unstoppable depending on the gear the opposing player has. And I don’t think Germany of all nations needs more buffs/content at br 4
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First we should wait and see if Jagdpanzer IV L70 un BR4 was a smart Idea (I suspect no)
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Don’t see any problem with the pz4/70V at br 4…
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I bet you will, Panther is already crazy well armored for BR4 - Jagdpanzer IV L70 has the same armor just without its turret weakspot.
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Given how it, in performance, is basically just a panther but with worse gun traverse but better survivabilty, I doubt it would be too powerful, especially with how little TDs are normally used. Using it on BR5 was not fun when there are much better options actually suited for the BR.
You know, the devs fine tune “numbers” all the time, 80mm of armor might have been nerfed - who knows.
Anyways, Ill go try it out then.
Besides balance concerns, I am glad to pull out my Premium Jagdpanzer IV L70 again for some fun. Got two in my line up - wish me luck, lets see how the tank performs.
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It’s perfectly usable and you can have fun with it, I used it for a bit a week ago or so and had a blast, but against competing vehicles there’s no real reason to use it when you have things like the Tiger 2s or Ferdinand
The problem with the Jagpanther is that it’s a BR5 vehicle that has to compete against BR6 vehicles at its own BR. The Ferdinand will have the same problem because BR5 has become so compressed because I guess power creep just doesn’t exist in the eyes of the devs.
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Br 5 tanks are pretty balanced what.
No point to use the M4A3E2 76 when the Pershings exist, not point to use the Ferdinand or Jagdpanther when the Tiger II exists, no point to use the IS-2 when the IS-2 1944 exists, and Japan doesn’t enough TT so no point to use the Ho-Ri prototype when the Ho-Ri production exists.
It’s a lot more noticeable with Germany and the US, and even more noticeable if you bring up jets.
Acting like that isn’t literally every tank br
It’s much more pronounced at BR5, are you trying to say powercreep hasn’t affected high tier since the merge?
Top br? Not rlly besides the planes. Best guns are still select fire. Assault rifles are still pointless. Best assault rifle is still federov. Best tank is still king tiger. Best machine gun is still rd44.
A Panther (which is already a very good tank at BR4) with its armour weakspot removed and an even more powerful cannon at BR4? This thing would be absolutely busted. Just because it’s not the absolutely best tank at its current BR does not justify moving it down. If we followed that logic then 90% of the equipment in this game would eventually end up at BR1.
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Assault rifles are BR5 while the Federov is BR6, Maxim Tokarev is BR5 while RD-44 is BR6, M2 Carbine is BR5 while T-20 is BR6. It’s a simple concept, and yes power creep exists.
Crazy how many pre merge weapons are br 6 in your eyes
And your point is? I never said that this post-merge problem was strictly caused by post-merge weapons.
Then what are you saying here
