Hello everyone, I suggest moving stug3f to rating 2 to fight Shermans, T34 and KV1 from rating 3. Marders are too vulnerable and have an open cabin, and stug3f is protected from all sides, while it does not have imba armor and such a fast rate of fire as a short-barreled 75mm gun and does not have a machine gun, which will not bother the infantry much!
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Totally agree, great idea 
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how about lock BR 1-2 so we dont have to constantly bring more and more op / powefull stuff to low br.
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Ive supported the idea for a long time, I would be very glad to see it, especially for such an iconic vehicle to get a new lease on life.
I dont disagree, but honestly as a stand alone vehicle, the Stug 3F is very much a BR2 vehicle, good gun, BR2 armour and ofc no turret.
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why do you consider the stug an OP? it has no turret, no machine gun, the gun takes longer to reload than the pz4. and 50mm armor can be penetrated by the m1 bazooka, t26, bt7 and t70. however, it is not as vulnerable to infantry, aircraft and bomb fragments.
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Against BR 1 vehicles ?
The russian 45mm and US 37mm, both of which make up the majority of firepower at BR1, are both more than capable to engaging the Stug 3F at the ranges we see in game.
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Just like pz3J1 can destroy KV1 but that hardly is a even fight in any manner.
Its 50mm armour, neither of those guns struggle against a 50mm flat plate, the Stug 3G maybe, but not the 3F with only the 50mm plate.
In a game sense its basically only ATR proof, mind you for context, the turret side armour on the T-28E, is also 50mm.
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Fair enough, but if the problem is BR2 fighting KV1, shermans and what else.
Why not fix the problem itself entirely and lock BR 1-2.
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good post.
this is at least the tenth this year regarding stug downtiering 
& gaijin ignored all of them so far 
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Because while ±0 MM is the dream, the Stug 3F is still in a useless place at BR3, and can really shine at BR2, especially since its such an iconic vehicle.
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Also people should keep in mind that STUG III F has the weaker L43 gun, which can already struggle to penetrate KV1 at longer ranges.
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then buff it to fit better in BR3
No doubt a long 75 does shine against crap wagons it faces in low BR.
This iconic bs should not affect the overall balance. Which is why I assume we have this KV situation to begin with.
No matter how iconic the equipment is, it should not be sealclubber in low BR just because its iconic.
Aka current GE tanks are just fine in low br. Only problem is that they are forced to face BR3 hence → Lock the BR1-2 so new players dont have to deal with this iconic bs.
I look at this and imagine how a regular player, who has only 4 slots, puts this in the tank slot.
Such a disabled machine will certainly increase the power of the German team.
How?
I mean yeah the inferior version of the long 75, in fact its the inferior version of the inferior version, it has no place at BR3, especially on a limited casemate hull.
I mean not to mention, the only significant advantage it has is pen, which is only useful against BR3 tanks. Otherwise it has significantly less anti infantry potential to the HE spammers the germans currently have there. Not to mention due to its casemate nature, it has to leave itself far more exposed than other tanks ironically.
Wow, the soviet main is actually agreeing, actual shock on my end here.
But yeah praise be we eventually get more F2P slots, up to 6 I say, first slot costing 10k silver, the next costing 50k silver.
Faster reload ?
Stalinium sheet metal front ?
More speed to compete with meteor ?
Its not like it cant be made to be more appealing choise in BR3.
And quite guaranteed OHK capability against BR1-2 vehicles, id guess it doesnt matter where you hit with it its OHK.
What else can I do? The developers themselves added the BR system, and they discredited it. I have long since stopped understanding how weapons and tanks, along with planes, get their combat rating. If even the developers don’t understand this, then neither can we.
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Aye true that