whose dumb idea was it to basically copy and paste the turn time of the spitfire it was used against V1 flying bombs no German or Russian aircraft can compete i have roughly 1500 hours in the air i win almost every fight until im against a meteor ?? well sometimes i can take them out with a tier 4 plane which has the lowest turn time of 15 sec do you guys just want to appease more of the American player base ?
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A secret from me: in fact, the Japanese Kikka is a very maneuverable aircraft, if you drop the bomb and ignore the overload of the flaps, it shows very decent maneuverability results.
IMO all jets should be nerfed to around 19-20s turn rate and moved to attacker aircraft since they currently only make all prop planes redundant.
If jets had slower turn rate, they would be good interceptor aircraft against boombers but bad in dogfights, though they would still be faster than prop aircraft.
However at the moment, jets are an upgrade in every single way which they shouldnt be.
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I think this ship has sailed long time ago
To be fair jets like Me262 or Su9 aren’t that competetive against prop planes (because whiffing or merging usually means death) in terms of dogfighting but they carry more bombload and do faster resupply runs
One simple fix to Jets being too strong of HE slingers is to move the resupply points for them further back
And regarding Meteor - the thing is busted as it is. First of all: the bombloads is crazy. Should be 2x500lb. Second of all the turn time is over the top. Should be brought to be in line with other Jets at ~20s
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The meteor had a sub 16 sec turn time and the 262 had a turn time of 24+ seconds (this is around an 8 second difference for those who can’t count). Enlisted’s 262 has a turn time of 18 seconds compared to the meteor’s 13 is a 5 second difference. Germany was given a huge buff here and is a massive favor. The meteor has every right to be the better dog fighter.
Next up, the meteor bombs. 2 bombs is not OP in the slightest. Bombs in Enlisted are way nerfed to begin with, but the 262 has the far better armaments for CAS with the mark 108s. They are far stronger and can cause way more infantry deaths than 2 incredibly nerfed 1k bombs. Not to mention germany’s 500kg bomb is also better than u.s.'s 1k bomb.
Feel like i need this copied so i can paste everytime i see some german main complaining…just stop and use some logic for a second.
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That’s probably the biggest nonsense I have heard in relation to jets in Enlisted. It’s so easy to kill any prop plane with them.
All you have to do is take advantage of the altitude, just fly straight up at 90°.
No prop has the combined power/speed to follow you, and thus threaten you in any meaningful way.
Then just come back down at the right time for a free kill.
I am doing it all the time with jets.
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So you think it’s fair for a jet carrying 907kg of bombs, 720 20mm rounds and turning in 13.57s? No German or Japanese BR4 and BR5 fighter comes close to a 13.56s turn.
And few of the lower tiers make it through and most are bad
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If you don’t think it’s fair then the proper solution is to bring to 16 seconds and then increase the 262 to 24 seconds. I much rather it stay as is because a 24 second turn time for the 262 would feel absolutely horrendous.
There are several Japanese planes with sub 14 second turn times. Many of which are excellent planes. If you wanna talk wacky turn times the jap bomber with a 9 second turn time seems like total fiction but i haven’t bothered researching it to say. All i know is that it’s crazy.
My point about the meteor is that it was even better in real life (turn times) compared to the 262. So if the 262 gets a massive time reduction than the meteor should also get a time reduction.
A5M4, A6M2 and A6M3 only these, the meteor can climb to 2000 meters and the zero will not be able to climb, it will turn and kill you or a P-47 will appear and kill you, or it will go by aircraft carrier and it will turn and kill you or the P-47 will kill you, if he goes to refuel you can’t reach him and he will turn and kill you or the P-47 will kill you,It’s already very difficult to shoot him down and there’s still a P-47 to help, so ALL jets should have a turn of 18-19s without exception
Enlisted is not real life and enlisted has never been historical and never will be
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Enlisted’s vehicles are indeed modeled and developed in a historical sense. That’s like saying german bombs should be weaker to match the u.s.'s because “enlisted isn’t historical”. If you want to use that argument to equalize things then everything needs to be equalized. Say goodbye to your beloved king tigers.
This game is dying because of people like you thinking everything needs to be an even match stats/performance wise
Aother side note about the turn times. It’s listed as best turn time. Meaning you probably won’t turn that fast a lot of the time and while holding your payload. The pilot also blacks out and looses control of the meteor every time you try to make that fast turn, thus making your turn time even longer.
The game is dying because of people like you who think that a jet with 13.57 turns and 907kg of bombs is fair, just standardize the turn of all jets to 18-19s,I can’t believe there are people who defend Meteor, my god…
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Perks and problem solved
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Do you really think i don’t have the perks on? You don’t fully black out, but your screen does infact get s little dimmer and your plane does infact not turn as fast until you recover
Kind of is, as GE cas relies heavily to bombs which were nerfed years ago, while murrica has hvars and what else to spam.
You mean like T20 because FG42 or Hyde because stg ?
Or captured ofenforferförförfär for murrica ?
Its been dying now for good 3-4 years and servers still seem to be up and running.
Doesn’t quite work the same with weapons that actually existed. We’re talking vehicles that should be reflect their real life counterparts. Kind of like how the t20 reflects the t20. And the fg42 reflects the fg42. The meteor should reflect it’s far superior turn time just like the king tiger should reflect it’s far superior armor.
I don’t even know what you’re saying about the bombs, because german bombs are in fact better than u.s. counterparts. Do you think the u.s. bombs aren’t nerfed?
What about a p47? Lol…they’re good as CAS but shit dogfighters against jap planes. Can easily take a p47 out with a ki-100.
Care to point me to direction where I can find the Hyde or T20 combat performance or how troops like it ?
In what reality T20 represents whats it in game ? The later version of this M14 was absolutely horrible and much like AVS / AVT hardly if at all controllable at full-auto ?
How is this represented in game ?
Except this is arguably the only select fire rifle that was somehwhat controllable and usable unlike soviet avs / avt.
Sure BAR did also work as auto rifle mostly due to its heavy weight.
The differencies seems quite minimal.
No. But US has options such as hvar while GE doesnt hence GE relies on bombs on CAS.
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It doesn’t matter, Meteor wins the turn of all BR4 and BR5 planes and if you don’t win and just run away or climb to 2000 meters, you are the only person defending the meteor, so the whole community is wrong?
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Very fair Meteor and P-47 against a Ki-84 and a B5N2 if you chase the Meteor the P-47 takes you down and if you chase the P-47 the Meteor takes you down
It should be a significantly better fighter, and obviously the devs agree with my thinking or else they would of never introduced it this way. I told you, if people really don’t like the 13 second turn time then the 262 also needs to be increased to reflect how it should be. Just like the king tiger trumps all with it’s armor, the meteor should have a better turn time than the 262. This is my stance, it has nothing to do with wanting to keep it at 13 seconds. It has everything to do with comparing it to the 262