Meteor 500 lb is Too Weak

Right.
So I think it’s right to increase the difficulty by filling up the fuel.
The difficulty level is too low right now.

I think all jets should get worse bombs they are OP enough Kikka should be 500 kg and Jabo 2x250 kgs since this single bomb just looks ridiculous .

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I don’t think that would be bad either.
Except for the UK 500lb
This is a real piece of trash.

Well considering how OP the jets are they should all suffer in my book.

I just want attackers and fighters to be appropriate…So even though this is not what I suggested (regards to the meteor)…it is in the spirit.

Just the others that need a role swap

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Well we can only hope but if they give me Japanese BR where I dont have to see jets I wont even care what they do at BR V xD

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also in addition to the fuel.

I seem to remember they removed the effect of bomb imbalance from jets. Another pretty significant bonus jets have over props, contributing to overperformance…

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Oh, of course.
Fuel is really the source of all evil.
Even strange planes are made normal when the fuel is removed.
That’s why I want most planes to have fuel removed to make it normal, and especially for planes that are too OP to balance by adding fuel.
The performance of the plane itself will not change unless it changes in the War Thunder anyway.
My Fw190 is always hungry.

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Have you ever played with the 110 g2?! Lol they’re fantastic at killing infantry, and they are even better on the 262 and 109z. They also quite literally shred apart any aircraft with a single touch. They aren’t ass, you just don’t know how to use them.

They really aren’t OP. You can easily take them all out with a simple prop plane, the only exception is the meteor because of it’s turn rate. That was the only needed nerf

Is down but its down from unfathomably high levels. Its really not going to be struggling against infantry

Yeah, they will be ever so slightly above the Meteor level due to 800kg and 30mm cannons

Which then is outclassed by rocket tanks and the fact that P47 rocks so much bombload it outperforms D-12 and Ki-83 combined (especially considering that the superior 800kg is paired with inferior Ki-83). Also both of those planes, as well as both of their Jets are still HEAVILY outclassed by the Meteor flight performance

US still has more HE capabilities. And having to actually hit your bombs on A BEST FIGHTER IN THE ENTIRE GAME is more than enough of a tradeoff

If both sides had tanks that weren’t going to get exploded, we ignored all the US premiums and the planes completely ignored each other? Maybe, but I doubt even such scenario would make it even

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They are still significantly worse than having a second 1000lb bomb. And velocity in air to air makes them hard to hit, even if the shot shreds the enemy planes. Fighting Meteor with its turnrate and great speed retention combined with the low velocity makes tracking the plane relatively hard unless you get a good intercept or the enemy plane flies straight for whatever reason

I know how they work, I played every Jet in the game and really digged up their pros and cons and as its now: current Meteor has none. Literally outclasses every single plane by significant amount. Having 2x500lb makes it slightly worse in terms of anti infantry capabilities and very mediocre in anti tank capabilities, while still retaining its status as the best fighter in the game. Its simply unfair for such a beast of a plane to rock this amount of bombload, regardless of how much you cry about 500lb being too weak. Its good that its weak. It should be weaker than what other 3 Jets have based on the flying stats alone. Then when taking into consideration existance of P47 the flying stats should’ve taken a hit too

And in terms of Kikka: absolutely should lose its 800kg bomb for 500kg and some of its flying stats… the moment a good high tier attacker is introduced into the Japanese tech tree. You can be certain that I will be talking about this issue when such occurance happens

500 lb is still powerful. Meteor also needs turn rate nerf.

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This is Fake 500lb, not US 500lb as we know it.
It’s actually a 100kg bomb, and even if have two, it’s worth less than a 250kg bomb.

Also mentioned above, just filling up the fuel can change the turn rate like any other jet.

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Haven’t really been playing Enlisted beyond events for the last few months. Nearly lost the bug… But as I do, In war thunder and enlisted…I tend to fly fighters to grind events (and I choose a BR I know fan favorite CAS planes or tanks will be mass spawned)…

As such I find to be the most efficient for high scores, even without having massive payloads.

Since its the hot topic, I had a spin this morning for event. La-7 represents perfectly what a fighter should be. And if La-7 can do it, Meteor will be just fine as a “fighter”…Probably better than My tempest which is one of my favourites.

This is just this week with…(not bomber formations…all tanks and planes) The 25 is absurdly high because yak 9k just points at vehicles/planes/apcs and they explode.

BR 5 Yak 9k
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BR 5 La-7
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100kg still at least removes King Tiger


Jets made everyone forget what fighters are supposed to be. Air superiority with more effort required to remove vehicles (but still capable)

La 7 is solid - YouTube

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It’s been easier to accurately place a bomb on tank with fighters since forever. This is true from br1-5. They are easier to maneuver into position and keep on track. Easier to dive and pull out of dive. Using bombers for tanks has NEVER been the go to. Attackers are generally better for infantry kills. Fighters have always been the go to for vehicle kills


German tanks eat 1k bombs all day.

nope…only fighters with payloads equal to or better than attacker. (IAR, P-40, P-51…or the lol cannon on yak 9k).

Attackers are far more popular…bigger bomb to make up for aim…part of the Reason I like fighters at certain BRS…you know no one wants that slot…Even before jets, no one was lining up for the La-7 or K-4

I wouldn’t exactly call that accurate.

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also the practice range is hit and miss because crew is missing. This is a 500lb bomb (what’s getting put on meteor) and it still wasted this KT (even though It was a bad drop, because its in front)

This IS the british 500lb bomb

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just learn to aim ur bombs and the 500lb wont be an issue to work with and the bombs still have a ton for fragments so its not even that bad

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If 500 lb is not 500 lb
Still the main point is that UK 500lb is not at all equivalent to 250kg or US 500lb in other faction and is a little bit better than 100kg.
In the case of fragment, I’ve probably mentioned it above, but it honestly doesn’t mean much because of the bomb logic.
In fact, 80 to 90% of them disappear without meaning.
The most important thing in the bomb is the Blast side.
Frankly, if the jets didn’t come out, and the others didn’t have strong CAS capabilities, honestly, I wouldn’t have complained. (500kg and 30mm HE Shell)
But Jet changed Meta, and it able to easily destroy tanks and kill a lot of infantry.
In the end, balance has to be somewhat relative.