Mannlicher M1890 Cavalry Carbine Siamese

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This post will have the least information of the previous two (SMLE III Siamese and Mannlicher M1888 Siamese ) because information is scarce, but I think it’s enough to make a post.

In 1897, in an attempt to keep up with their British, French and Chinese neighbors, the kingdom of Siam purchased 15,000 Mannlicher M1888 and M1888-90 rifles and 6,000 Mannlicher M1890 Carbines (both known in Siamese service as the Type 33) from Osterreichische Waffenfabriks-Gesellschaft of Steyr.

(The year of 1890 in the Gregorian calendar is equivalent to the year of 2433 in the Buddhist calendar (Siam adopted the Buddhist Calendar in 1913) that’s where the 33 of Type 33 Rifle comes from)

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Steyr sales records

Since there is no mention of a bayonet, it is probably the Mannlicher M1890 Cavalry Carbine, which is the only variant of the Mannlicher M1890 that does not have a bayonet lug

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Mannlicher M1890 Cavalry Carbine, from the collections of the Swedish Army Museum

Mannlicher M1890 Cavalry Carbine Specifications

Cartridge: 8×50mmR Mannlicher (M93)
Muzzle Velocity (m/s): 620
Integral clip-loaded box magazine, 5 rounds
3.3kg
Length: 1005mm
Barrel length: 498mm

The Siamese military high command was so impressed with the 8×50mmR Mannlicher that they decided to create the 8×50mmR Siamese in 1902.

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On the left an 8x50mmR Mannlicher cartridge and on the right an 8x50mmR Siamese cartridge.

Sources

Siamese Thai: Military Rifle cartridges. - Free Online Library
11MM Mystery Kropatschek ? | Gunboards Forums
https://forum.enlisted.ru/t/obshhaya-tema-po-vooruzheniyu-yaponii-delavr/163266/618
Mannlicher M1890 carbine - Wikipedia
Mannlicher M1890 Carbines Austro-Hungarian Weapons
Bayonets of Siam (Thailand)
8×50mmR Mannlicher - Wikipedia
Siamese Mannlicher M.1888 in 8x50R Siam | Gunboards Forums

:white_check_mark: Weapon Type
Bolt-action rifle

:white_check_mark: Battle Rating (BR)
BR2
:white_check_mark: Type
Thai Event Squad

:white_check_mark: Availability
It would be a new weapon in the game in an event squad with a new sub-faction that many players would likely want to play the event and the Japan faction would have a bolt-action rifle that allows aiming between shots

:white_check_mark: Gameplay Purpose & Role
Would fill the gap of a bolt-action rifle that allows aiming between shots in Japan faction.

The Mannlicher M1890 Cavalry Carbine should be added to the game?
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That’s pretty good, I think it’s really lively

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Thank you for your post.

Good research and I would welcome this to Enlisted.

I would like to see it in the tech tree with a specific Thai squad, similar to how we have an Australian squad as 1st Agas.

As you state Japan deserves a bolt action that allows for continued aimining. The Mannlicher M1888 could be an option, or this.

No reason why we couldnt have both in the tech tree, but Id like to see at least one added to TT and then we can worry about events/premium etc.

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It would be really cool if we had a Thai squad in TT

I prefer the Mannlicher M1888 because it has a bayonet, but I wouldn’t see a problem if both were added to the TT

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