Lower the A6M3 to BR2

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Should the A6M3 be lowered to BR2?
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The A6M3 is a fighter currently on BR3, but it is more suited for BR2 in it’s current state. This plane is a slight variation of the A6M2 (which is BR2), and it has the following noticable differences:
-It has a drop tank as ordinance, but it isn’t really effective at anything really
-80 more rounds for the 20mm cannons (nice, since the A6M2 loses it’s power very fast with the small supply of 20m ammo) and 40 more rounds for the 7.7s (although this is negligible, the difference between 1360 and 1400 doesn’t matter when it’s near impossible to use that much anyways)
-turns 0.73 seconds slower

Which, in the grand scheme of things, isn’t all that insane of an upgrade. Despite this though, it is on BR3, and still uses the weak 60kg bombs of the A6M2, even when the Ki-100 is better in pretty much every way, especially bombload, as dual 250kgs are much bigger. These facts make this plane absolutely obsolete in it’s current rating. Due to the very similar performance of this plane to the A6M2, I propose changing the BR of this plane to BR2

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I don’t play Japan, but I respect them. Sending love from Canada. Also, I love drop tanks and I would 100% play Japan more if the tanks got lowered. I only have the Japanese drop tank, but BR3 Japan sucks (imo) so I can’t use it

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:us: :handshake: :canada: Yeah, drop tanks aren’t ranked great, but they are fun if you can use them properly. BR3 Japan is alright, but compared to the US BR3 it heavily lacks, but IMO all it needs is the Chi-To and Chi Nu II to be lowered and some kind of BR3 AT then it would be a very powerful rank for Japan.

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so move americas drop tank fighter to the same br?

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The armament of the FP-5 is much better than the A6M3 with four HVARs instead of two 60kg bombs, so I don’t think that the FP-5 would be BR2, BR3 seems fair considering how powerful HVARs can be.

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4 HVARs vs 2 60 kg bombs, how does that make sense? Not to mention the 6 .50 cals are also better overall for shooting down planes compared to the 7.7mm guns and limited 20mm ammo that the A6M3 gets.

Plus if the used against the Germans, the FP-5 doesn’t have to spawn on a carrier

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instead of lowering every japanese plane remove carriers and have all planes air spawn

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Please always share a picture so its easier to recognise what vehicle or weapon you are talking about

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There is also a premium version, which is identical.

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I think the A6M3 is fine in BR3 but needs ≥100kg bombs instead of 60

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It’s also got a more powerful engine. And you’re really dismissing the advantage of having more ammo gives you… It lets you take on multiple aircraft without worry, not needing to rearm or relying on MGs to land the finishing blow is huge. You can down a enemy plane then strafe the battlefield on the way back to rearm, the M2 would be out of ammunition at that point.

I think the A6M3 is actually perfectly fine in BR III, it does the job very well, and it’s objectively an improvement over the M2, I think it deserves it’s BR placement.

The problem in my mind is that the Allies got the Mk IX Spitfire recently, which is just another powercrept thing to BR II. What needs to happen is the uptiering of the Mk IX to BR III, not even more powercreep that only benefits the few event/premium owners.

I consistently get first place in the pacific flying around in this thing, often going entire games without dying, contuinually popping Shermans with the dual 60kg bombs. It’s not obsolete, it’s God tier, the Zero just deserves a better class of pilot.

If anything, I’m surprised I haven’t heard a peep yet from US players crying because the Zero is too nible and can’t take them down in a fair fight, I’ve made my fair share of US pilots rage-quit after continually cycling aircraft to try and take me out.

The Zeros are airframes with very high skill ceilings, and if you know how to work it, it’ll be the deadliest plane in the air in any match.

In the end, little changes for me personally if it is downtiered, because I’ll still be flying it in BR III, dunking on US pilots doing rocket-spam (the only danger would be if they decided to nerf the aircraft in some way together with a downtier, and I hope to God that they don’t).

It just seems like needless powercreep to me, that’s all, and as a frequent A6M3 flyer I would advice against it.

This would be a nice compromise though, a little buff to keep it where it is and placate those who doubt the Godhood of the M3.

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You know you’re doing well when half the enemy team is playing AA to revenge kill you.

Also, POV, you’re flying the A6M3:

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Well if it was not for the HVARS yes the Hellcat is not great not bad but HVARS in BR II will be interesting xD

the A6M2 mod. 11 is not a Zero even its BR I plane like the BF actually the BF is better then the A6M2 mod. 11 that should be BR I and for BR II we should get real BR II A6M2 Zero with 250 kg bomb and B6M3 is not BR III plane also its more of a BR II plane.

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Please deconstruct this sentence for me, too much is happening and I don’t know what your point is.

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Well the current A6M2 is not a Zero in the game it has stats and armament and model of A6M2 mod. 11 not of a A6M2. So its basically a BR I plane like the BF 109E7/U2. A real BR II plane will be the real Zero A6M2 not the mod. 11 that cant carry big payloads and have worse stats. The B6M3 is a premium fighter but its not much better then the original Zero since it cant carry 250 kg bomb but it has 2 small bombs and a drop tank so its hard to put it in BR III since its a premium fighter and for BR III its not really good while in BR II will be acceptable fighter that people may buy at BR III is just waste of your money for that price.

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Not sure what you mean by A6M2 is not a zero, what is it then? (What plane in Enlisted is the real Zero?) As for suggestion, sorry the drop tank was buffed it it quite effective now, the ammo the plan has is ample. Bombs are effective for skilled pilots, so I don’t agree BR2 move.

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Well its Mod.11 preproduction variant used in China it should not be starting even on a ship since it has no hook.

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I bought it as is, best purchase I’ve ever made in this game.

Yes, the bombload is not good, the only downside to what is otherwise a great plane.

  • Is has a respectable ammo reserve. - If you can’t reliably take out five bombers or two player planes without rearming then the issue lies with the pilot, not the plane.
  • Perfectly acceptable armaments. - x2 20mm canons and x2 MMGs, nothing fancy for its BR but it gets the job done.
  • Amazing turn rate. - I mean really, you will outturn anything you have a chance to come up against. The only scenario in which you’ll loose a turn-fight against any BR I-III US plane is if you’re low on energy and fighting a Spitfire Mk IX with a massive energy advantage. This turn speed makes you invoulnerable to even having an enemy on your six, because if you see the enemy coming you can reliably dodge them if you know what you’re doing.
  • Engine is above average. - You’ll fall behind dual engine aircraft like P-38s, but there are few situations where you can’t catch up with an enemy with equal energy to you. The acceleration and climb speed is just very useful, and combined with the turn speed you can go vertical to take out threats before leveling out again, all without stalling.

I have no qualms in stating that the A6M3 is the best fighter in its BR, if you just consider air-to-air combat. It’s a beast, it’s amazing. This thing in BR II just wouldn’t be fair.

Yes, the only dowside is the bombload, that’s the balance, if it had dual 250kg bombs instead it wouldn’t just be “the best fighter” of BR III, it would be “the best plane” of BR III.

Also consider, with the mobility of the M3 in mind, you can be so accurate, you can make drops from such a low altitude, or go for a near verticle dive you can reliably recover from, to place those dual 60kg bombs right where you need them to be, they’ll take out Shermans for a determined pilot.

I just flatly refuse to entertain the idea that the A6M3 is obsolete in BR III, it just isn’t. Any pilot worth his or her salt can (and will) use this thing to dominate the skies over the pacific.

As I said previously, the Japanese Zero’s are planes with very high skill-ceiling.

Oh, I see!

Well, this isn’t part of the discussion though, that’s a different topic, I thought you meant that a Zero is only one specific model can be called “the Zero”.

My position is that the whole series was and is called by English speakers as “Zeros”, probably because of the Anglo tradition of naming iconic planes.

I didn’t mean it as a real Japanese term, it’s of course invented by the Americans, and it’s a commonly accepted name for the whole A6 line of fighters…

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But its important since we dont even have A6M2 in game it only shows the sorry state where Japan is there is not even the original A6M2 in game…

Waste of money like the Hellcat. Absolutely there is far better things to buy then this overprices bad planes. Dont lie to the people its not good value for your money its a bad financial decision there is very good vehicles to buy that are cheaper. If some one is considering buying it dont listen to him its a bad bad value for your money.

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Eh it will effect me, purely because I want to use droptanks, but Im not a fan of how made up playing BR3 Japan feels.

But I would be just as happy with a M2 with droptanks.

Performance wise, between the M2 and M3, both can afford to sit in BR2, especially with just how powerful Allied and Soviet airpower is, like soviet BR2 is just straight up legitimately broken, and BR2 allied is very very strong.

I know this would antiquate the M2 if the M3 moved down, but on the flip side this is a rare and old event squad, Im not overly concerned about it tbh.

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