Király 39M should be in BR 5

Since the Király 39M was moved to BR4, this weapon has been abused. Players constantly leave matches to find BR3 opponents, and neither the American nor Soviet forces at BR3 possess comparable weapons. The M1928A1 should be moved to BR4. If a weapon like the Király 39M—with its 40-round magazine and high rate of fire—can be placed in BR4, then the Western Allied forces, having acquired the new Thompson, should integrate the older Thompson into BR4 combat to balance the OPed Király 39M.

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Yeah, no. It’s fine where it is.

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Welcome, friend, it can be a problem, I actually can’t find a good SMG for axis at br 5.

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Because axis doesn’t use SMGs at BR V. they’ve moved onto Assault rifles.

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I need something for an apc driver and tank crew also

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Just use the MP40 or you can just bring the Kiraly up to BR V, no need to change it’s actual BR.

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M1928A1 50 should be moved down to BR 4

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That’s a weak weapon for 5 br indeed. M1921 more or less but this - no. Also I like to see a m1921/28 for a 30 rounds at br 3

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You didnt had to return for that post.

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agree this weapon is literally rubbish for br 5 compared to the new tommy for br 5

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and when it comes to this topic its pointless since this gun would be basically superated on the majority of aspects by Assault rifles like STG-44

but when it comes to this statement i agree
in fact i´ll create a different topic for it

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Kiraly is fine where it is at BR 4, especially if it ever had it’s RoF reduced slightly to 700 RPM base (810 upgraded), which most sources claim it to be.

As for a proper Axis BR 5 SMG, I think taking Dregomz’ common suggestion of the emergency MP.40 with a chopped MG.42 spring combined with the planned 72 round MP.40 drum magazine would be a pretty cool option. I think the most difficult part of adding it to the game would be giving it a proper name (MP.40S Trommel?).





To clarify: the first image is a photoshop compound of the MP.40 Steyr, combined with the 72 round drum magazine designed for the MP.SS.42. They were both developed around 1942, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they weren’t functionally identical, save for some minor changes in feeding and magazine catches.

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I hope Axis gets SIG MKMO one day.

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So why should BR 3 contain a weapon comparable to a BR 4 weapon?
If they ever had such a weapon at that BR then what was the point of the entire BR system?

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Actually, it’s kind of Kiray. Because it was very the same developer. Kirai themselves.

Yeah but better very similar but better rate of fire ,better control and better muzzle velocity its the same gun but better at everything.

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dregomz is the hero with cracked ideas we all needed :sob: no matter if you say the opposite

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I agreed with him on this particular case, I think a variant of the MP.40 with a fast rate of fire is neat. Put the stick mag version at BR 3 or 4, depending on recoil and dispersion.

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The Fins did have the SIG MKMS, if we technically want them included in the Axis tree. Not sure if Germany ever tested an MKMO or MKMS themselves (both have the same RoF and magazine).

SIG MKMS

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nope

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