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Taking into account that most of what you’ll be shooting at is infantry, but also accounting for tank duels, uptiers and downtiers, and small factors: The 105 Sherman is unmatched at BR3, with runner ups being the Panzer III N and KV-1 respectively.

Not in the case of the pz4 vs Sherman
It comes down to luck for the Sherman
The pz4 has to be face to face with the Sherman
While the Sherman just has to be there
The pz4 just has to hit the Sherman
While the Sherman has to
A hit the rear
B hit the top of the enemy
Or c has to hit the front plate
Which means the pz4 just has to aim at the Sherman
And pray the pz4 has he loaded

So are you just allergic to shooting weakspots? Cause if so then you might wanna stick to low BR.

If you’re talking about the Marder 3, you should know that it’s an ambush tank. Keep in mind that its armor is so light that even American 12.7mm ammunition penetrates it easily. :smile:

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My point is the pz4 has weak points for the 105
The Sherman is a weak point to the pz4

I’ve already said the Panzer IV H is better for anti-tank, but I’m also saying the 105 Sherman is good for anti-tank. You disagree with the latter statement and you somehow believe that means I disagree with the former statement.

Guys, this discussion is going around in circles a bit…

You mean the pz3 n with an even smaller weak point
The pz3n
With apcbc 51mm that can pen the side hull of the Sherman
And heat 80mm that can pen the entire Sherman
Sure remove the heat and the 105mm Sherman is better

Yeah but it’s funny how stupid he is

Yep the marder 3h the other marder3 is br2
It is the Sherman 105mm is just bad
It has to hit weak points to pin a pz4 while the Sherman is a weak point
And wow when does the Sherman an fight a kv1 in enlisted id pay to do that

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I know it’s almost like you are masturbus oblivious

The Panzer III N also has to aim just as much as a 105 Sherman though, it’s HEAT has high pen but you still need to aim for the ammo or specific crew members to ensure your target doesn’t turn and kill you.

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Nobody is stupid, he just lacks information and if he is stubborn it will be even harder to convince him, but your video story will allow him to visualize the thing and better understand what you are saying, because in writing it is not easy to understand.

I was just saying the KV-1 was a good BR3 tank, and also using it as a comparison. But compared to the German and Japanese tanks it faces, no other tank has as good of stats are the 105 Sherman.

Stubborn in wrong is what I call stupid.

After comparing these two tanks and excuse my language, but it’s a bit absurd when comparing tanks, you have to consider their actual role in concrete situations.

For example, the KV-2 was originally designed to destroy fortifications, and here we’re comparing it to a Panther, which has a much more versatile role.

Do you see what I mean?

Comparing tanks is a good way of showing which ones are stronger though. The Panther is stronger than the KV-2, even though I love the KV-2.

The 105 Sherman is a better vehicle than anything it will face at BR3. Plus I don’t really care what it was intended to do, I care about what it can do and what it’s gonna do.

I am going to be clear and simple

The 105mm Sherman is not a bad tank

It’s just badly matched against any pz4 tank in br3
And pz3n

Second in enlisted, warthunder and enlisted are not directly comparable

Enlisted has infantry and small maps

As I have said the 105 Sherman was not designed as a tank destroyer

In enlisted it’s great against infantry and br2 tanks

It has only he with almost no armor pen and a slow reload

If it fights almost any other br3 or 4 tank most times it will loose

If I have to aim at the back of a tank, the top of the tank. A small plate in the front

You just have to hit my tank it’s not a fair fight
That’s not a skill issue that’s a gun issue

Example both the Sherman and pz4 are traveling East or West side on to each other
Both fire the pz4 will kill the Sherman while the pz4 will bounce the 105mm

Look me in the eye and tell me you would rather be in a 105 facing a pz4 g h f2 or hell a pz3n

I will take the 105 Sherman every time if those are my option, I will one tap your tank with an HE shell, and then I’ll nuke your team without having to switch shells.

In this discussion, we’re comparing the PZ.4H, a multi-purpose tank equipped with several machine guns and an anti-tank gun perfectly suited to its role.

And we’re comparing it to the Sherman 105, which can accomplish essentially the same thing; only its shape differs.

Next, we need to compare truly comparable vehicles.

Like the M10 tank destroyer and its M10 ersatz equivalent; in this case, the comparison is relevant.

Are you with me? :sweat_smile: