Lol. Clearly it’s me even though I’ve said twice now I’m not trying to call it an actual AR (3 times now), but only that it could of been placed there in game due to other very similar circumstances.
First being, damage values are not directly correlated to calibre.
Second being, we have many examples of guns being placed in classes they should not be in based on real life terminology. As well as the same gun with a slight variation being placed in a completely different class as the other.
Third being, we already have a gun in the AR class that is also in the MG class.
This alone would be enough evidence to win a court ruling on the matter, so i don’t think we need to keep going and repeat myself over and over.
And if the title “assault rifle” bugs so much, they could easily introduce a “battle rifle” title that assaulters can still use.
Id guess its because people probably wouldnt want to get ohk’d constantly by machineguns
M1 crybine ? For mortars ?
Or fedorov ? Id guess the fedorov was introduced as assaulter gun as counter to mkb42 / mp43 just because devs we’rent just yet sure could they add ak47 in the game.
Which they later did. And you know, soviets just are special in that way.
Anyway, there was some sort of reason to do so.
While theres no need for this MG to be assaulter gun.
I think an event AR for Allies would have been more interesting than another event/ bp low BR MG, considering there are like 5 BR 2/3 guns and the Colt Monitor as occasional premium.
But also not the biggest need, especially since it is just an event gun anyways.
I guess, to be fair im not really holding my breath waiting to unlock this lewis.
And the .30cal m3 grease ? for example. Would have been somewhat 1 on 1 comparable to mkb35.
But as some murricans have been moaning for BAR to BR2 for quite some time, I guess this lewis thing is arguably a good way to try out how it fits there.
Definitely not. They might play a small factor in it, but it’s mainly tied to class. We can look to the 30-06 round for all the evidence needed to support this claim. We have bolt actions, semi autos/SFs, and Mgs all firing the same round, but yet the damage varies from class to class. This proves without a reasonable doubt damage values are in deed tied to weapon class and not caliber.
I could be mistaken on this, but I’m under the impression the federov MG is literally the same gun as the AR, just with a water cooling device attached to it. Models appear to be the same.
At the end of the day, all i was saying is it’s stats are on par with the mkb35 and it would of been nice to use with assault engineers. Beyond that i don’t really care what title it gets. They could of implemented a new one called battle rifles for assaulters, or even kept the title machinegun but still allow access to it with assaulters. Similar to the gorov mg being allowed access to regular infantry
Same round, different action.
Bolt-action rifles can extract everything from a round.
Semi-auto rifles are gas operated, some of the power of the round are used to operate the gun so its weaker.
Machine guns lose even more power due to being open bolt.
But as I said smaller round is generally weaker, take the Japanese 6.5 Arisaka round as example which does less damage than MGs in .06-30 or 8mm mauser.
Or .45 acp (11.43mm) does more damage than 9mm.
Fedorov Avtomat and Fedorov MG indeed share damage (13.9) making Fedorov MG the hardest hitting machine gun, however historically Fedorov was used as a machine gun/automatic rifle which is the WW1 equivalent of a light machine gun.
Though Fedorov fanboys claim that Fedorov Avtomat was used as an assaulter weapon during the Winter war which is why it wad added as assault rifle in game (and there was no other AR to add to Soviets in Moscow campaign)
According to your logic any weapon could be an AR because it was used like one then. That’s ridiculous.
I’ve proven my point, we currently have a gun in the MG slot and the AR slot.
Do you really think a bolt action offers 70% more power, knock down, and larger entry/exit wound all because a little bit of gas is lost? Again this is ridiculous. I would absolutely put money down that a garand and springfield have a very similar effect on a pig or ballistic gel and definitely not anywhere close to double the “damage”. Again, ridiculous.
If you want to change your answer to caliber is a modifier, that would be way more accurate. Just like rof is a modifier to damage. Damage is not directly tied to caliber like it is with weapon class. You just like to argue for the sake of arguing
in the case of Fedorov, I agree that its ridiculous but you need to complain to the Fedorov fanboys about it, not me since I would move Fedorov to SF rifle category.
Fedorov? Maybe my stance was not clear, but fedorov avtomat is NOT an AR, never has been never will be. Its classified wrong in the game and I have no idea why a mistake would justify another mistake aka. Lewis rifle being turned into an AR.
In fact the most ironic part here that the term Avtomat is also incorrectly translated as assault rifle which led to the myth that its somehow an AR.
Fedorov, BAR1918 and L.A.P.R. are all automatic rifles, aka WW1 versions of LMGs.
about 25-30% more hit power actually, but the difference is justifiable at least and not just mere balancing mechanic.
Though differences artificially inflated or deflated to balance the game, a good example is the .45 acp which does way more damage than it should compared to 9mm parabellum when we look at statistics of shooting mortality rates.
