I link you a couple of videos, but the US Army’s attitude towards assault rifles was…crazy to say the least after WWII.
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Yeah, we should get a br2 assault rifle like germany.
AR or battle rifle, or MG, or SFR
well, all these terms dont mean anything for the game - what matters is what role those guns play.
gameplay wise:
rifles are single shot guns
Assault rifles are SMGs with extra range
MGs are sustained fire guns
→ however, the concept of sustained fire guns depends on what BR its sitting in - 20 round mags dont seem like alot of rounds in BR5, but in BR2 this is a different story… unless its accurate enough to play like a “big” assault rifle, its a MG in low BR.
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It looks no different than Mkb35
It was actually usually referred to as the Lewis Assault Phase Rifle, no idea why they dropped the Phase for the game though.
It’s also not an assault rifle by any means.
Reason:
Because the Federov was a differnt type of weapon - not quite intended or suitable for the same role as the BAR/Chauchat/Lewis at all.
The Russians did run it with a “crew” of 2 apparently - Wiki says the #2 would reload the magazines - but being much lighter and handier it was still eseentially an individual weapon and not the quasi-LMG that he BAR and Chauchat became.
This is only a problem because of the idiotic classification/weapon availability system - IRL a soldier carried whatever their unit loadout required them to carry - and if the guy carrying the squad automatic got hit then, and his #2 got hit then another soldier would pick it up - they didn’t stand there because it was a LMG and they were a rifleman!
The Fedorov, doctrinally, was effectively used as a machine gun. The only reason the Fedorov is an “assault rifle” an used by assaulters is the ancient myth that the Fedorov was the first assault rifle, even though it’s very easily debunked. That and, balance-wise, it had to contend with the MKb 42(H) ingame and there really wasn’t any other gun they could’ve used unless they added a drum Suomi or something.
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That is incorrect, the corret name is “Lewis assault phase rifle” but the devs just shorted it to assault rifle.
And even then the term “assault rifle” or similar was not yet established in 1921 so even a name like that could not define an intended docrinal use as the term assault rifle did not mean anything yet and anyone could call anything an “assault rifle”.
So if some redneck gunsmith thinks that an elephant gun would be great assaulting a trench then he in fact has created an “assault rifle” during that era.
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Because the full name is Lewis Assault Phase Rifle
It’s the same classification as the BAR and Chauchat, basically walking fire while assaulting enemy trenches and over no man’s land
Because screeching idiots are convinced that 6.5x50 Arisaka is an intermediate cartridge…
And that’s because it’s an auto version of a semi-rifle.
Federov shows up as an AR and a MG and a SF. I would argue the Federov fits more in the SF category based on reality. Point is the game breaks these soft rules all the time. The type hei automatic also shows up as SF and MG in game. There’s no good reason to block this weapon from being an assaulter gun
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False. Like saying the BAR was used as a machine gun.
It’s not an assault rifle
It’s “assault phase” rifle, a rifle you use in “assault phase”
BAR was a light machine gun tho, or at least in WW2.
Thats highly debated. It was classified as a support weapon. It’s more in a grey area between LMG and SF/battlerifle. Back then it was just looked at as a multirole automatic rifle. It’s in the name, and one thing forsure though, is the military itself did not see it as a machine gun, which is why it took on the role it did.
It was originally just that - an automatic rifle designed for WW1 to clear trenches.
However during WW2 the US military decided they needed a light machine gun as a support weapon, which is why they changed their BARs to have a heavier barrel, changeable fire rates, a bipod and one of those MG carry grips.
WW2 BARs are by all means light mgs - according to their intended role and their weight
WW1 BAR M1918 is significantly lighter and literally was designed to assault trenches.
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Machine guns are literally weapons with rifle cartridges made automatic.
Especially in pre and WW2 period.
They’re literally the same thing.
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Mkb 35 is kinda special, since its not super accurate, shoots very very slowly, does not deal rifle damage and is overall not that good.
Its basically a bad SMG that however still has great damage at longer ranges.
Again highly debated. So much so, it’s far more accurate to not place it in a traditional category and just refer to it as a multirole automatic rifle, or simply a support weapon. I’m also pretty sure the military’s intended purpose of a machine gun back then wasn’t to clear a trench as traditional machine guns were not very mobile. And again, i know for a fact, the military did not think of the BAR as a machine gun. People today just like to call it one because it could be used in a similar manner or can be akin to a modern day LMG, but it is not 1 to 1. You don’t have to take my word on it, military fanatics have been arguing about the BAR and what to call it for a very long time now. Point is, the BAR fits into many different categories, trying to say it’s a true MG and nothing else is just inaccurate. My hot take on it, is it’s a lot closer to a battle rifle than a MG
The stats are almost identical. The main difference currently in game is the lewis rifle’s damage, but that’s only because it’s currently in a MG class. It could easily be switched into the AR class with AR damage like the mkb35. It would of been cool to get it as an AR to use with the assaulter engineers in BR2. Beyond that, it makes no difference to me in game, and it’s too late to change it now.