I really don’t have any friends who know about it. One is a professor at the University of Catania, another works at the Italian Military History Museum, also in Catania.
Listen if you want to criticize some parts of the suggestion that’s ok, but don’t start spreading bulls please. Italy didn’t switched sides it went in a civil war, but i get it, for those who play ww2 video games knowing little about history it’s easy to fall for bias.
I guess you take jokes too personally.
Actually i don’t I just didn’t like how you didn’t take the suggestion seriously
it also didnt switch sides in ww1…
If you want I can teach you the Italian situation with Austria before ww1
you mean triple alliance?
Cool, but that’s not enough
what is not enough? not fulfilling alliance and then attacking your ex allies days after alliance expired?
That would be the case if Austria didn’t wanted to attack Italy in 1909 immediately after the messina earthquake.
Plus it was a defensive alliance
Now please let’s stick to the point
Italy switched sides in WWII, and then German occupation plus the RSI created a subsequent “civil war” within Italy. This is the factual sequence of events.
I think the real issue is whether “civil war” is even the best term here. Italy after 1943 wasn’t really an internal struggle between two domestic factions, it was a German military occupation after the recognized Italian government had already abandoned the Axis. The RSI only existed in the first place because the Germans occupied northern Italy and reinstalled Mussolini under their protection.
Yes, Italians fought Italians, which is why you could call it a “civil war". But calling it only a civil war downplays the fact that Italy had already formally switched sides, and that one of the “sides” was essentially a German-backed client regime operating in occupied territory.
Very diplomatic thank you
I just want to point out that the Italian armed forces were left without orders and command after the armistice so after that majority of the soldiers just stopped fighting.
and what was the reason some people in austrian government wanted to attack italy? cause of italy flaming austrias territories to secede. also austria didnt attack italy despite that.
which is why nobody had issues with them staying neutral. them attacking their “allies” days after alliance expiration… btw it was just 111th anniversary of italy attacking austria 2 days ago.
If we want to go back to the original sin:
Austria controlled Italian speaking territories during the first half of 1800s.
if we want to go back to original sin, rome controlled many speaking areas that werent italian/roman ![]()
Okay, okay, this is getting dirty. There’s no need to argue about events that happened over a hundred years ago. Both Italy and the Austro-Hungarian Empire retained territories that didn’t belong to them, just like other powers. But while we were leaving this aside, we were talking about Enlisted, so cut this short and let’s talk about useful things for the game that could make the gaming experience more enjoyable and creative, in peace and serenity! Thank you so much if you understood the message, otherwise “READ IT AGAIN!”
This isn’t War Thunder, so don’t apply War Thunder’s standards to Enlisted. If it were, Chinese players would be protesting even louder than you, an Italian player. If Enlisted can’t make the Italian faction independent, perhaps they could separate the British and Italian North African campaigns.