Increasing Armaguerra Damage

We all know that the Armaguerra Mod. 39 is one of the worst BR2 semi autos in the game, partly due to Soviet body armour but that’s not gonna be removed despite numerous suggestions, so I suggest upping the damage of the Armaguerra to 15.3 when fully upgraded. Same as the BR3 semi autos and the Fedorov/Koko Rifles of the soviets. Not only does this make the Armaguerra actually useful when facing body armour it also gives the only factions the soviets face a semi auto that can fill the same role at BR2.

  • Yes, 15.3 damage
  • Yes, other damage value
  • No
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yes, need it

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Im not in favor of buffing things to balance something else…why not just have a game where everything has 10 HP and everything does 10 damage?

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I would prefer changing this gun and the federov 1912 damage to 14

It was kinda stupid that instead of the devs giving Armaguerra and G41 15+ dmg so that body armor doesn’t stop them from one hit downs - they decided to give Soviets a BR2 rifle AND giving it 15 + damage, which they didn’t even need since Germans don’t have armor.

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Lets get the bayonet for the Armaguerra too!

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We could have the Armaguerra balanced to be more like the Type Otsu (as every 6.5mm 5 round semi auto could be), and add the 7.35mm Armaguerra foldered with it, and give that stats comparable to Fedorov M1912?

Aesthetically, they’re quite similar. Main differences are a slightly shorter barrel, no finger wells on the front of the stock, and of course the caliber change.

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Armaguerra sucks and it does indeed needs some kind of buff however giving it 15.3 dmg seems bit too high for it considering that it does uses relatively weaker ammunition. How about giving it the buff that Otsu rifle received? Faster RoF with much lower recoil and possibly faster reload speed.

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Faster RoF with 6 rounds? It’d still be shit. The main problem is that you can kill 3 people with a mag if you hit every shot and aren’t too far away. Changing the RoF or literally anything but the damage does nothing to remedy that

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i would prefer them to turn it into a type otsu 2.0 tbh

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The real problems in that equation are body armor and the federov 1912 tbf

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Not if it gets faster reload speed as well. It would not be the same as it getting over 15 damage but at least it will make it much better and easy to use. Giving it over 15 dmg isn’t feasible mainly because the ammo it uses is indeed relatively weaker 6.5mm. Like we can’t just ignore that fact, right?

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In my opinion, the current German BR2 should have another rifle equivalent to the Soviet Fedorov 1912, so I recommend the Luger 1906 rifle. Both the Luger 1906 and Fedorov 1912 have a fixed capacity of 5 rounds, and its 7.92mm caliber is better than the Carcano 6.5mm
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That’s nice. Care to make a separated and dedicated post for this in the suggestion then?

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Does the actual performance of the round matter anywhere else in the game? Guns don’t have the same damage despite shooting the same cartridge from the same exact barrel length. If we want to have it be in line with 6.5 Carcano performance have it deal 23.6 damage like the Carcano M41.

And the problem isn’t solved by being able to reload faster. It’d still be a shit gun without the ability to kill anything not right in front of you. Chewing through all your ammo doesn’t make a gun better or more effective.

And it’d look horrible. There’s a reason reload speed is only changed so much and that reason is that animations start to look terrible when sped up too much.

Yes it does matters(At least, when the guns are in the same category, armaguerra being semi-auto rifle so it should follow the similar damage as japanese 6.5mm semi auto rifles roughly speaking). Carcano being a bolt-action rifle justified to have that damage.

It would still not be as good as Fedorov semi-auto rifle obviously but realistically speaking, having the buff i mentioned above would be the best possible outcome for armaguerra. Being side or slightly upgraded Otsu rifle that is. Would be better just make DF adds some 15 dmg dealing semi-auto rifles instead like that Luger rifle for example tbh.

Honestly, the reload animations on some of the old guns, armaguerra included are atrociously bad still to this day so we wouldn’t even feel much difference if they speed up a bit.