Increase the rate of fire of the SMG ZK383 to compete with the "Uragan" SMG, which will deal 6.9 damage

Pps42 is below that? Germany has close to a dozen amazing smgs for br2 with many at 690 which is the “sweet spot” mas38 is hands down one of the best br2 guns and probably should of even been br3. Soumi, erma emp, erma emp silencer, the other erma, berretta m38 is efing amazing in br1 AND 2. I have so many good guns to choose from for germany br2 it’s gotten a bit ridiculous.

It’s not OP though. The game can’t even register bullet exchanges that fast when we talking .00001 second difference with body armor. And that’s really the only time you’ll loose a fight from it, when you both shoot at the same time. Uragan is not OP as well. Japan has a tommy in br2 with 1,000 rof and 8.2 damage. The uragan is nothing special. The body armor doesn’t really help “win fights” it’s more for just survivability in general than anything else and still not on the same level of german tanks giving an advantage.

The vote BARELY passed for br5, and it’s only because there’s a few german players with a bit of sense left. Otherwise, german votes ALWAYS far surpass everyone else’s for things. If there’s a vote to give russia or u.s. something decent/good it’s dead on arrival, but for some reason there’s constant suggestions and votes being passed for better/best in slot gear for germany.

I’m sorry i came off that way. This forum can get to you if you’re not a german fan boy

All but one of those weapons are Event or Premium guns. Those have never followed the same balancing rules as TT weapons, for none of the factions in the game. Is the existence of the Bezruchko-Vysotsky SMG reason enough to add such a weapon in the Axis TT?

Dunno, lately murricans has acruired best jet, T20, hyde, ofenförörörö, pershing tanks and GE got reskins & some BR adjustments.

But nice try tho.

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surpassed by
tommy .30cal & UD42

and by soviets with
pps43
pdm42
vysotsky
& PPt-27

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Up for debate now

Lots of recoil on console. German weapons usually have a vastly superior shooting experience/ accuracy for this reason. Im on console and so is half of the player base. So you cant say b.s. like skill issue or personal problem. Same thing with hyde and stg. However mkb42 (br4) and scotti naval are hands down way better than hyde and best two ARs in game (even with scotti small mag)

King tiger still better overall

Faust100 better

You just got the ferd? And i can name off a bunch of other top tier shit y’all have gotten over the last year

AND just because the forum is dominated by german bias doesn’t mean gaijin is thankfully. But germany overall has the best stuff with very few exceptions

Incase you’re not sure what i mean by console having absolutely horrendous recoil compared to pc, heres a video of the charlton. Doesnt shoot anywhere close to this on pc

Not really, best of its class that is fighter.
And still has capability to deal with both enemy team tanks in one run.

differency is 1 & 1 . So I can quite confidentally say there is no differency at all, even less with wheelchair assists on consoles.

T20 actually has less dispersion.

Ofc I can, if it was up to me consoles would have even theyr own forums where they can do what ever pseudo science arguments with each other.
And goes without saying PC would have option to not play with these bots.

Recoil differency is again 1&1 and dispersion 0.02 but in exchange hyde as by far more rof.

Irrelevant as neither compares to M2 stinger.

Doesnt change the fact that allies got something new does it ?

Slower, and both has enough pen to deal with any armor in the game.
So in what sense it is better ?
Or are you saying you need to steal it too ?

The fk does germany do with tank that is inferior to panther ?

Please enlight me.

And this is why id rather see you skill issue consoles with your own forums, rather than litter genuinely intelligent forums.

Jet aka meteor > any tank or plane
M2 stinger best weapon of the game.

You were saying ?

Good word choice.

Hmmm…i wonder how many kills tanks have compared to airplanes? It’s almost like tanks alter the battlefield more thus have a much higher significance to a battle over airplanes.

Sure, maybe. It’s up there, most people only have 3 or 4 if any at all unlike some of Germany’s equipment

So far you’ve only named 2 things that are better and both are br5. You do know there’s 4 other brs right?

Yes, its absolutely best fighter.
Cant blame the equipment if someones sht with it.

Depends, P47 with hvars quite often if not most of time has alot more infantry kills than tanks.
Then again, planes for certainly have alot more tank kills than tanks has plane kills.

In some rare occasions when your entire team consists of consoles that are worse than bots, id guess theres possibility that tanks would shine there.
But again, cant really blame the equipment.

You only need 1.

Yeah i dunno about that. King tiger eats 500lb bombs all day from just a few feet away. Can probably count on one hand how many players can smack a tank roof with bomb every single time

I do

And meteor eats AA guns shells, so its bit difficult to even kill it.

Nexto tracks is just fine.

Lmao. You’re getting funny now. As if we’re all rambos taking on the entire german army with one gun and one life

Again, cant really blame the equipment.