The dev team sadly never had calibres determine how much damage a weapon does. I feel that would be better but that’s not how it is, and that’s not going to change soon
ZK-383 could also have a little bit higher damage to compensate though I would prefer a reload speed buff instead.
Though Mp35/I is going to get a buff so Uragan should be fine, though I wouldn’t mind if Uragan had its fire rate fixed (~500 rpm and moved down a BR).
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The big problem is that removal of the body armor has been asked for on a nearly weekly basis since merge so nobody expect this approach to work and thus fall back to change everything else instead.
Ever since it was clear that devs wont do shit about the unbalanced BR 2 smgs the USSR enjoyed since the merge, germany players have shifted their focus on the forum to get their own weapons to compete/ correct an exising one to fit that same role instead in favor of just creating anyother nerf request only to be ignored.
I dont think people would propose such a change if the dev werent so adamant about keeping the body armor up this entire time.
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Put your tears in a jar for me. Zk is already one of the best br3 smgs. Arguably better than ppsh41 box.
Speak for yourself You wanted to add more nonsense to USA because oh wait new German scary tank that get overshadowed by king tiger howw. Terrifiying 
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Germany has just as good of smgs in br2 that compare to both pps42 and 43. Even better in some cases. Please keep whining because germany isn’t the absolute best in all 4 factions
4p-4c back to br4 isn’t nonsense though?
Guess that inst enough for You yet?
Ju-188 got to br 5 and the br 4 German planes are lame hell i would Say that stuka from br 3 is more decent (and i’m not Even mentioning the BF-110) and soviets doesnt Even have planes on br 4 so why americans should have more air supremacy if no one else have it?
Lol! What?
109z is not lame as hell. Is strongest br4 fighter. And you have best br4 tanks in game. Bringing u.s. plane back is more than fair, but even so, germany can still get a better br4 tt plane? 4p4c has nothing to do with that.
And it doesnt matter after all br4 don’t exista if devs moved to br 5 is for a reason and i don’t think developers are gonna bring it back
Btw i was fully centered on attacker planes not figthers but anyways
I agree, but even after the buff, the MP35L still can’t compete stats-wise with the new uragen SMG. Perhaps you should start a poll. 
I know my suggestion to increase its rate of fire might not be the best solution, but it’s still better than doing nothing at all. 
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Otherwise what? 
The only advantage German SMGs used to have was their ability to two-shot kill a unarmored soldier at close range with 6.8 damage. Now the Uragen SMG can do the same with 6.9 damage, while also surpassing the ZK 383 across the board in other stats—rate of fire, muzzle velocity, reload speed, and recoil. If no further adjustments are made to the ZK 383’s stats, should I take this as a sign of another massacre?
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Each version should also have a change of flavor.
Germany level 3 has 3 weapons
Beretta 40
ZK383
MP351
At present, the most practical one is the Beretta 40.
Even received official approval and was given skin treatment
383 was used in the previous version.
The current version has indeed enhanced the firing rate of MP351.
But I don’t know why the attack power was reduced.
This is exactly the same as the short tube MP351 of level 2. It would be better to post a message to request that MP351 of level 3 maintain its original attack power and keep the current firing rate.
This way, the players will have access to new weapons to use.
And now we have addressed your current need.
This is also the direction that everyone is currently calling for.
It’s definitely possible to maintain the attack power of MP351 without reducing it. Instead, we can increase the firing rate.
Why are the MP35’s level and rate of fire both advantages?
MP35 has a higher firing rate and its level is 2.
The MP351 has a slower firing rate and its level is 3.
They absolutely shouldn’t have the same attack power.
This is completely reasonable and has perfectly solved the balance issue.
Give Germany level 3 a technological tree weapon that can completely defeat the Soviet forces.
Everyone has been perfectly resolved.
But I just don’t understand why the developers reduced the attack power of the MP351 long barrel? What was the reason for that??
I don’t know why because 4p4c is a fighter?
Br4 is alive and well in germany and russia. U.S. 4 struggles immensely right now and japan is non existant. Again, just because you don’t like to play br4 doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be fleshed out. That’s a weak argument often used by german mains for wanting br4 equipment to be downtiered to br3.
Welcome to life story of allies. Uragan is by no means OP, what’s ridiculous is any time something catches up or barely surpasses german equipment y’all want to throw a hissy fit and demand better equipment than anyone else. When allies say we need something better it’s always a no. Zk is absolutely fine where it is.
90%of German TT BR2 SMGs are BR1 material.
The only 3 guns that can be compared in total effectiveness are OVP, Beretta 1918 and that 40 rounder Beretta (forgot its name, there are so many of those)
BUT, Soviet armor does still effect them and gives Soviets the upper hand.
I used to spam OVP and they shredd every target insanely fast, even armor, but the top loaded magazine and smaller mag makes the gun quite difficult to use.
PPS have really ideal rpm, just look at all the other shooter games we know, 750-850 is the sweet spot for ideal rate of fire in basically every game.
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No, the Uragan SMG with 6.9 damage is absolutely OP , i had already listed the data and could you please calculate it yourself? As I mentioned before---------
Even if the ZK 383 had a fully upgraded fire rate of 860 or 870 RPM(same as the firing rate of Uragan), USSR players would still hold an advantage when wearing body armor. The point of increasing the rate of fire was simply to make engagements more reasonably balanced when body armor isn’t involved.
In other words, you can still maintain an advantage with body armor—but let’s make sure everyone else has a fighting chance, without it turning into a complete stomp. 
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Ironically, you fit the image of the so-called “German players” you described even better. Right now, I’m only trying to balance the rate of fire stats between the ZK 383 and the Uragan. In fact, even if both guns had the same rate of fire, the Uragan would still hold all the other advantages I mentioned earlier—but that’s beside the point. I didn’t even ask to remove the additional body armor effects, yet you responded with such harsh criticism. Let me ask you a question: if the so-called “German players” were truly as selfish and shameless as you claim, then why couldn’t they keep the Ferdinand at BR IV ?
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