Increase the damage of the FG-42 series to 15.8 units

Hey everyone! As we all know, the damage of the FG-42 rifle series was raised to 15.3 units about a year ago, and this made it possible to one-shot soldiers wearing cuirasses with vitality perks at distances up to 30 meters.
But at longer ranges

Surprise

, the cuirass bonus still works and saves them from an inevitable one-shot. And that’s considering that the FG-42 I and FG-42 II have lower accuracy, and their recoil pattern pulls the weapon sideways — meaning it’s inherently harder to shoot accurately at long range with them than with the AVT/AVS. On top of that, in this update the Soviet Union got the AVS-36-20, which has a similar rate of fire to the FG-42 II, the same magazine size, but its damage is 15.8 units — which it doesn’t even need, whereas the FG series could really use it. This wouldn’t break the balance: players without cuirasses would still get one-shotted just as before, but the unfair cuirass bonus would stop saving people and giving them an unjustified advantage for nothing.

P.S. We could just remove the cuirass bonus altogether, but since that hasn’t happened over several years, it would probably be better to balance German and Japanese weapons with this bonus in mind so they can remain competitive.

Increase the damage of the FG-42 series to 15.8 units?
  • Yes
  • No(why?)
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i would rather preffer giving fg42 ii its bayonet and a dispersion buff at leas 0.2 so it can be equal to T20 and be usable

but when it comes to damage well… i dont want another AVS-36 20

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I say yes just to normalize with other factions…

What I’d love even more however, would be the bayonet for all fg42, and it’s recoil reduction bonus.

I’d be content with it. (Don’t all other factions have them???)

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Accuracy is important, of course, but I think one-shot damage in any conditions would definitely be more needed than a bayonet and accuracy. I’ve got nothing against the bayonet, but that’s another topic. First damage, then bayonet, IMHO

Oh I’ve got nothing against normalized damage between factions (Hei excepted as it got a bigger mag and rof).

It’s just that, buffs for axis are rather rare… I feel if we ask for something small, there’s more chances for it to be accepted.

depends on how you look at it

remember that what screws the FG42 II is the body armor when it comes to public matches
against T20 is more balanced if you ask me

but well do whatever for me asloong germany is viable from a competitive view is fine (and ofc im talking when it comes to their infantery not tanks)

Alas, I think you’re mistaken — no matter whether this request is big or small, most likely it won’t be fulfilled anyway))
So our job is to voice the problem and show support for fixing it. Beyond that, nothing depends on us.

This topic has nothing to do with balance against the Americans - things are more or less even there already.
We could have managed without this, but nobody’s wanted to cut the cuirass bonus for a long time now.
And that could solve a lot of faction balance issues, but alas.

Hold on with those thoughts, rumour has it that a body armor nerf is coming.

In what sense?
If you mean introducing body armor for everyone — that still won’t solve the problem, and it’ll look ridiculous, to say the least. Besides, fast-firing SMGs like the PPS/PPSh won’t suffer from it, and neither will the new AVS-36-20. It would be easier to just not introduce this nonsense and remove it from the Soviets. Or balance the current stuff with it in mind.

Nobody knows exactly whats happening other than the devs being aware of armor being the most disliked mechanic by the community and that they are working on something.

Just be patience, I bet the next big update is gonna adress it.

Got you. Well, for now I’m going off the current reality, and this suggestion fits it. Ideally, of course, they’d just remove this mechanic altogether.

It was a joke. They most likely won’t.

They doubled down on it in cosmetic tab, it now SHOWS which item confers a damage reduction crutch.

don’t care. kill guys with placebo armor just the same as anyone else… find the constant obsession over body armor and relating it to balance insufferable.

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Genius, if we keep justifying Axis buffs with Soviet body armour, eventually Soviet mains will beg for the removal of the damage reduction.

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Dispersion buff, bayonet. And the SF rifles all should not exceed 15.3 that includes AVS and others.