Increase the damage of the Breda PG (Carcano)

The Breda Carcano has the lowest damage among all BR 4 semi auto rifles, with only 13.6 damage, which can barely kill a player with Vitality at 10 m range. I suggest increasing the damage to either 14, like the Breda PG (CR) or 15.3 so it can kill Soviet soldiers with body armor.

Which buff should the Breda PG (Carcano) get?
  • Buff to 15.3 damage
  • Buff to 14 damage
  • No buff
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The Breda PG fires a 6.5x52mm cartridge, which is slightly weaker than other BR4 rifles. The thought from the developers must have been to give it less damage and lower muzzle velocity, then compensate with less recoil. They decided to heavily exaggerate those differences and gave it a LOT less recoil.

A buff to ~14 damage seems reasonable, but 15.3 would be too strong unless it’s paired with a recoil increase. I would prefer to see a small damage increase and have the rifle maintain a little bit of gameplay diversity rather than making it perform the same as all the others.

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The Gerät 03 fires the same 8mm Mauser as the G43 and ZH-29 yet does 0.9 to 1.4 damage less. The cartridge isn’t actually that important if the same cartridge from similar weapons, or in the case of the G43 nearly identical weapon, does significantly less damage.

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The Gerat 03 Damage has already been increased to match other semi auto at 15.3 damage

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Should we also make Recoil Control the same as the rest of the semi auto rifles given in this example?

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Sure, why not. As long as the damage of Breda PG increased to match other semi-auto rifles on BR 4.

At the very least, Breda PG should get it’s damage increased to 14.5.

I mean look at this scotti naval rifle which using the same ammo and honestly i don’t understand that how one could justify that Breda PG should retains it’s pitiful 13.6 dmg.

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Nice, noted.
But ig it would be worth adding this to the topic text so that the voting players understand that they will have to choose between damage and recoil control when they vote for 15.3.

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Since you are so keen on “You can only choose either this or that” argument on Breda PG, would you hold the same standards for the other guns as well then? I can think of few examples right away here. How about that Type Otsu rifle can spam it’s shots with 420 RoF and 2.3 seconds reload speed, 13.8 damage with little to no recoil while Armaguerra Mod. 39 stuck with 350 RoF and 13.6 dmg, 3.2 seconds reload speed and much higher recoil? Despite them being on the same BR 2 and using similar ammo. Would you agree that Armaguerra Mod. 39 needs to be buffed? You would agree on this right?

Or how about Fedorov AR? It shoots 6.5 arisaka round so it gets 13.9 dmg, which is roughly the same damage as other japanese semi-auto rifles that are using 6.5 arisaka but for some reason, it gets 70% recoil control modifer. You would agree that Fedorov AR should get it’s recoil modifer reduced to something like 40-50% or even lower than that right? With such damage of course. :wink:

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Maybe. But if you have ideas for changing other types of weapons, you can always create separate topics for them. Here, we’re discussing the Breda PG, and I’d be curious to know what people would prefer: 15.3 damage without recoil control, or recoil control without damage? But unfortunately, the topic doesn’t mention anything about this, so I had to clarify. And thanks for your response.

That’s rather ambiguous. :thinking: Here, i thought that you’d give me an opinion on such simple, clear cut examples but i guess i’d expected too much. Thanks anyway.

About creating the separated topics about those guns, there are numerous posts about those guns already. I thought you’d seen it at least one of them by now. Apparently not?

Oh, Yui :upside_down_face: is this still not about Breda PG? Meh.You’re voting for 14.5 and the removal of recoil control, I’ve noted it. Let others have their say as well. :wink:

I mean, you wanted to Breda PG have the same recoil as other semi-auto rifles if the damage is to be increased to 15.3(Sorry, i wouldn’t accept 14.5 for that, 15.3 or bust :joy: also i haven’t voted yet :stuck_out_tongue: )first so… I mean i don’t think i was the one who first came up with other guns in this Breda PG topic wasn’t?

Hey, i’m not stopping others opinion here. Why would i? :wink:

Not wanted to, but asking players though about recoil control given the proposed damage increase to 15.3 like others SA-rifles. You’ve already answered that. :+1:

Wouldn’t it be better just put a poll about this then? If you wanted to see the amount of people’s opinion about the recoil increase for 15.3 dmg that is.

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Yap, good idea. But as a helper, I wouldn’t want to create a poll in my message. That’s why I wrote that it would be great if the clarification about recoil control were added to the topic itself. Thx again I appreciate it)

I see.

6.5mm semiauto is 13.6 damage, don’t ask me why, DF made this up

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