Imbalance on highest tier because of jets

Hey there! I´m a quite experienced tank player in Enlisted. Since the jets on level 5 have been introduced there is a remarkable imbalance from a tanker´s view. On every other level you can fight against planes in a tank - you can hear them early enough, watch the skies and then fight them with your machine gun or try to escape the bombs or rockets. But the jets are too fast to hear them early enough and guess the direction they come from and their bombs are too heavy and powerful to escape them once you hear them drop - there is no chance against experienced pilots. So I recognised again and again that when you have an experienced jet pilot he/she will rule the round destroying every tank due to the facts I´ve explained before. So I´d suggest to do something so that it is fun again to play tanks on highest level again. Probably nerf the bombs or give warnings for the tanker to have at least a small chance. Otherwise it is no fun anymore.
Best regards

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just keep spawning engineers and building AA guns and bully them until they quit playing pilot

or just ditch the tank and focus on the objective

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Hahahaha. Suffer.

Your “fun” ruins that of the ground players.

I do not understand what you mean. Fun means balance - for all players playing different classes. You obviously misunderstood me.

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So what is the sense of tanks then in that game? Tanks fight tanks, and every team needs them to “focus on the objective”.

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jets are almost immune to AA guns tho - they are too fast.

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True

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I must agree here, aircraft has very few counters namely AA guns, other aircraft and trees. (Plus the carrier’s AA in Pacific, but thats one campaign only)
While tanks have many counters and are not safe anywhere on the map.
Aircraft, rocket lauchers, guerrillas,AT guns, other tanks can all reach them even the grey zone and any infantry can carry TNT and det pack at the same time.

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New AA gun was kinda required even before jets.

The BR1 AA gun wasnt even sufficient enough against the BR5 propeller planes.
Also, in this exact case this one un-named invidual was rotating planes constantly.
Raising another issue, is it better to not shoot at the plane so incase of kamikaze he cant spawn another plane.

And here we are flying with jet with little to no contest.

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Sorry that be my fault. I made the playbook for jet bombing.

I don’t know what’s worse, the idea of ​​attacking skilled players who use jets or the people who liked this post.

You could try unleashing your Tiger 2 H for 10 seconds and, I don’t know… building an AA? Maybe?

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THAT is what you guys have to suggest: Better AA’s, complaining about a guy not crashing into the ground 15 seconds after spawning with a plane because he killed you with a well-placed bomb without any of your 9 teammates deigning to select a plane or build an AA to counter it is 100% a skill issue on the part of the team.

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First of all, I´m not attacking anyone here, it is a game! That you obviously feel offended - okay, I´m sorry for you. Secondly, I have great respect for players who place their bombs so well! I am talking about balance - the developers should take care of that. I as a skilled tank driver should have the same chance from my tank to fight a skilled jet fighter pilot just as I have on all other tiers. Even if the whole team is not doing anything against jets, like building AA´s or getting into their planes. The introduction of jets has brought an imbalance and that is what I´m talking about, nothing more.

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This is exactly what I mean!

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dunno, I dont consider my self as skilled pilot but didnt exactly have hard time killing everything with meteor.

BR 1 theres steam powered bi-planes that barely stays intact in the sky.
And against that we have 20mm single barrel AA gun

BR5 we have speed of light jets and incase of meteor it has better payload than many attackers
And we still have the same 20mm single barrel br1 AA gun

Think about it for a while.

If the meteor had 2x50kg you would have a point.
But as said, even people like me who arent exactly skilled pilots can rather easily take out any tank with 2x500kg.
Even the 1 500kg does the job most of time.

building AA requires a engineer squad. So planes require a dedicated counter unlike tanks for example that can be killed by any squad.

And the “Teamwork” argument is quite pointless as planes requires none.
You just spawn it, if the planes required a dedicated teammate to fuel & arm the planes before take off then you would have a point but im quite sure its not the case.

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Exactly, you nailed it, Tusupolisi69. Despite your own very successful rounds on a plane you deliver a thoughtful and factual analysis. Developers, please consider this!

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I do not understand what you mean. Fun means balance - for all players playing different classes. You obviously misunderstood me.

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The problem stems from the fact that you don’t fully understand the context of what you’re asking for. BR5 isn’t BR1. Players use automatic weapons, the best tanks, the best strategies, and the best planes, or at least that’s what should happen in a wide range of matches. However, it’s much easier to get kills with a tank than with a plane.

Literally the bomb can fall under a destroyed tank and not kill anything at all, even if the bomb was 12,000 pounds, this is due to some bugs that the game has, and on top of that, the learning curve for how to use planes is quite shallow, with most pilots not even knowing how to drop bombs. This division of power makes people prefer using tanks over planes. This means that as you increase your BR, you’ll encounter fewer planes that crash and know how to drop bombs, and more tankers who are still within the “good” range.

You can play however you want, but the role of a tanker isn’t to shoot at planes (unless you’re using a SPAA), but rather to cover infantry, destroy other tanks, and attack the objective.

Play then! :hugs:

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And we have BR1 AA gun in BR5

And even the AT Gun becomes better at higher BR.
Which isnt the case with AA.

Cant really figure a easier way to kill people than spam Hvars.

Which highlights the issue of air combat even further as GE lacks the Hvar style delete everything rocket spam.

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I agree with you that it is not “easy” to successfully play with jets! But the same counts for tanks as counter-weapons lurk everywhere on the map. And that a tanker´s role is not shooting planes is also true. But that does not refer to a game. In the game teams are not per se well-balanced when it comes to weapon types on the battlefield. So the developers should take care that not a single weapon (in this scenario jets on BR5) can rule the whole battlefield. And it is striking that as a tanker you could survive air-attacks until the jets have been introduced. I mean, of course, sometimes I also shoot down a jet, but that´s quite seldom.

In my view it does not matter on which BR you are. They all should be balanced!

Apart from that I will play the game and still have fun with it.