Imbalance on highest tier because of jets

They can’t dude… their most powerful ability is taking out tanks quick and open clusters of infantry.

Which… the aforementioned is what type of player you are it seems a tanker that is just mad their playstyle is getting effectively countered.

Sit on an AA and kill them if you’re so angry as i was jet cycling a couple days ago and guy killed me every time although i still did what i want.

Which highlights the current imbalance of planes.
Murrican fighter can deal with tanks, while attacker planes with hvars are free to deal with infantry.
Its supposed to be fighter plane, not a cas plane capable to take out both enemy tanks and while doing so keep the skies clean as fighter.

There has somewhat always been a counter to tanks. Infact, one could argue theres so much of counters to tanks that there really isnt much else to do for tank than stay GZ / long range and support your team from there.

And, infact the tools to work against tanks has gotten improvements quite alot lately.
Gorilla units.
US got the shrek & New tanks.

While there havent been any improvements to deal with planes.
The AA is same regardless of BR and infact one could argue it got nerfed back in days when they removed the quad AA.

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There is no need to discuss with you as you are offending me personally. Is it so difficult to discuss it on a reasonable level? “type of player” - “mad”…“my playstyle” is not effectively countered, there is an imbalance in my view. That´s it!

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This becomes irrelevant after BR2.

I really don’t see the imbalance… both vehicles need to be used by a skill player and both have multiple counters as you have mentioned for tanks and for planes sit and be detriment to team by sitting on AA, get in a plane yourself and INTERCEPT him (with the interceptor jet) or better yet just leave him!

But they can’t because they are tank main… it’s obvious from the wording and how prevalent of a problem jets bombing tanks seem to be because like first reply just get out of the tank and get on point because the same concept applies to the guy in a jet.

Take weird routes… avoid clumps of infantry… don’t spawn an APC or tanks… simple precautions i take when playing against jet spammer… instead of complaining about a so called imbalance i take efforts IN GAME to make the problem less annoying.

Running to devs to say something is OP is such a problem with modern gaming it has killed the fun of weapons in cod if there was any and is coming to here.

The imbalance is you getting killed by something you can’t really do about… welcome to my struggle with tanks until i get in said jet you are so against.

You are right however no reason to discuss as im not being very transparent… people who have such strong opinions on jets also offend me personally because if you don’t like it play BR3.

Oh but wait you can’t GZ in your tiger 2 in br3 now.

As ive said repeatedly if you’d like to refund me and all the other players who bought P80 then we can come to terms… but simple laws prevent your suggestion so enjoy… go complain to the government that gaijin resides.

Which means you’ve learned all the sweet places to hide in your once protected grey zone while blasting spawn and cap points, and now Jets threaten your peace and tranquility. :rofl:
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The guy literally wants more convenience for tankers by disguising the post as “balance” lmao

I don’t know why I bother answering these posts.

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If we strictly speak of fighters, specifically meteor cant really figure a single other fighter so good in air combat and capable to destroy 2 tanks on 1 run.

Even I do just fine with meteor, and by no means Im not a good pilot.

Regarding counters tanks & planes they arent even comparable.
Everyone with detpack can kill tank.
GZ tank can be taken out with AT gun, tank, gorilla unit, plane or snipe it with handheld AT weapons which can be in every squad.
Last option being the arguably least effective way, depending on range but do-able.

While plane requires a dedicated engineer squad or another plane.

If only there was 1 plane 1 tank slot for F2p players this could very well be a argument.
But since there isnt, its not really option.
As for GE for example, when you que for a game you cant really decide against who you are going to fight.
ME, is rather useless against USSR that hardly even use planes as they arent exactly effective as murrican planes.
And against murricans the ME is nowhere near comparable to meteor.

That makes sense, not.

Could say exactly same, only the jet mains that abuses the current broken jets are against anykind of nerfs or proper counter measures.

Except it doesnt.
There are much more ways to deal with tank than there is against planes.
Even the fact that engineers AT guns becomes better at higher BR, AA doesnt.

BR1 AA gun in BR5 does indeed sound quite alot like of imbalance.

Ive got no idea with what mental gymnastic logic everyone else should avoid and dodge the so called problem just because 1 player needs to have “fun” in hes OP jet.

It doesnt really take a rocket scientist to figure out that planes evolve from
BR 1 steam powered bi-planes to BR5 OP jets.
And AA gun is same regardless of the BR.

Like sure, keep the OP as fk Jet for all I care. Just give infantry a proper AA gun to deal with it.

Funny that you mention it.
If I recall, murrica has recently acquired shrek AT weapon, new tanks and OP as fk Jet to deal with tanks.

Yet asking same treatment to deal with jets that has no proper counter from infantry is skill issue.

Well no, they dont.
Im relatively sure gaijin as every other game developer / publisher has made such eula
( which you agreed on when installing the game )
That grants them right to do what ever they ever want regarding the game.

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True the meteor is the most illogical use of this argument but it’s sometimes preferable to leave the guy in the plane because they can only farm kills on large clumps… take out dedicated targets and tanks.

That is what aircraft were meant to do… it being a fighter does not matter as fighter and bomber in BRV should both be excellent in performing air and ground combat.

German is really the only imbalance here and it’s laughable… TU-2s and SU9, P-47 and Meteor, Kikka and now new attacker which isn’t bad.

Meanwhile germany gets their jet which wasn’t even meant to bomb tanks in the first place and the ju 188 which with good flight performance i’d say lacks in offensive capabilities depending on you or AI competence.

Who would have thought… the flying aircraft would have less ways to die than the bunker of death that are tanks.

Fair…I had presumed there was something but it’s also been stated by i know atleast a helper and maybe even mcdonald himself that they can’t change things that players already paid for or such… same reason why something so little as engineers on premium rifleman will never come.

I’m not against quad AA (specifically locked to 45 degree angle as that’s the argument always used is against infantry) but i am against merging the said attributes of jets such as their bomb load as yes americas is better and overtuned but that has always been staple of them.

Seem to have forgotten germany with the symmetrical balance they have been pushing.

Really the struggle lies in griefing teammates wasting the plane slots so i can’t deal with the tank.

Once again let me be clear i’m not against ways to take them out but nerfing their stats and or weapons.

Getting killed by a plane has always been annoying in high BR… just that it being a jet gives you a reason to complain about it.

You can blame the people who abused quad AA to block doorways and farm infantry for this… but iirc i mentioned that i was jet cycling not too long ago and getting killed and getting farmed by AA on my exit of every run… him doing that was more detrimental to his team though as every time i spawned from my spawn in another plane with new ordnance.

Was more so annoying not being able to use the one that i liked… that does kind of reinforce your argument however in which case i have also suggested quad AA but always given same excuse.

if only the jets were slow as regular propeller planes of BR5 this could be an option.
But more or less, this also highlights the issue of premium / stalingrad pass owners of being capable to rotate planes / tanks as long as they dont suicide.

Not sure what you are after here ? Are you saying the escort fighters of bomber squadrons also had bombs or ?

Im completely fine with nerfing every jet of the game, not just the meteor that currently is overperforming.

And USSR gets jet that never was used in ww2.
And allies gets jet that was only used to intercept V2 rockets.

Again not exactly following your point here ?

Well it was your argument that both has numerous counters while the only 2 adequate counters I know for jets are
a) other plane
b) not so efficient AA

For all I care keep the OP premium.
Just switch it to attacker slot and that alone reduces the jet spam.
& grant a proper counter for infantry.

The 20mm AA is already by far less efficient against infantry than regular BA.

Except this ass-ymmetrical balance has been constantly moved towards benefit of murrica.
T20, Hyde, New tanks, german shrek AT & meteor.

Theres no ass-ymmetrical balance anymore.

Doesnt that kind of fall to category "its your teams fault if they didnt bring dedicated AA to game "

Move them to attacker planes where they belong.

The hvar spam was issue long before the jets arrived.
Absolutely no one asked to make the matter even worse with jets.

You could this with regular hedgehogs too.
Sure, you as player can crouch past them but your bots wont follow.

Well I wasnt.

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