making shit the same is not a good balance breh, sometimes it’s fine with germans having better heavy tank, soviets having better br3 semi auto and tanks etc, the thing is, germany doesn’t need it, it’s strong as is and should be played to it’s strenghts
But the USSR have great mgs and smgs that is high rates of fire and big magazines, I’d be more tolerable if just about ever mg and smg was not drum fed
Oh, you’ve misunderstood. The point of my post was this: the forums are currently flooded with talk about changing the Soviet SVT38 to use the same reload mechanic as the G41, all in the name of “balance nerfs.” I find this idea completely ridiculous and historically inaccurate, but they keep pushing it based on nothing more than vague rumors and speculation.
What I was really trying to suggest is this: Would the constant forum complaints about the SVT die down if Germany itself had a good, magazine-fed semi-auto rifle at BR3? I play German BR3 myself, and the experience isn’t great. What surprises me more is that German BR3 players seem to have just accepted the dominance of the KV-1—hardly anyone even complains about its strength anymore.
I’ve been using Soviet BR3 for the marathon lately because it’s simply more efficient for scoring points. But queueing as German BR3 now often takes 20 minutes, which shows just how many players have abandoned it. The G41’s reload and handling are simply inferior—it’s night and day compared to the SVT38. The only reason I can still play the German line at all is because I rely on the 10-round magazine SVT Ps.38 (Pavisic) from the store/crates to equip my Engineers and Assaults, while my main infantry uses premium weapons like the Scotti X and Pavisic 2. Even then, the G41 feels worse than these premium options in terms of handling and reload speed.
Frankly, German BR3’s current state feels weaker than fighting AI bots. My post was meant to start a rational discussion: Germany has two semi-auto rifles at BR4. Maybe, like Japan did, they could move both down to BR3 to strengthen that battle rating. But ultimately, it all comes down to how the developer, DF, designs and tunes the stats. Remember how awful the Soviet BR2 Madsen MG used to be? It handled like trying to control a spinning top, so much so that veterans preferred Italian MGs over it. Only after it was somewhat fixed did it become playable, and Soviet BR2 population recovered.
The core argument is this: Instead of endlessly clamoring to nerf other nations’ weapons like the SVT, we should focus on how to properly improve Germany’s own BR3 experience—through thoughtful BR adjustments and performance tweaks. That’s the real solution.
Look what you said. Later, the accuracy of PPS was reduced to 0.7. Now the accuracy for a 100-meter distance is no longer good. It won’t be as powerful as before. However, the ZK38 from Germany is acceptable. Before, some buffs were added, and it could hit the opponent based on accuracy before relying on high fire rate. This gun left a lot of impressions on me in Moscow. Also, the MG. Did you say that the German MG34 is not good? The Soviet DP only highlights stability. The German MG is fast and large. Japan also has a 50-round magazine machine gun that has to be rated as BR4. The German MG is the most powerful. Its damage and fire rate are both higher than the DP.
The current situation is quite clear. The BR on that side is weak, so the number of players on that BR is gradually decreasing. Now, due to the lack of good tanks in BR5 for the Soviet side, when they are in open areas, they are easily overwhelmed by the Tiger II tanks. The German BR3 is also the same. However, the semi-automatic feature is also a major problem. Oh, the number of Soviet players on BR5 has decreased, and they all went to BR1-3. The number of German players who don’t use R1-3 has also decreased, and they went to BR4-5. But I have some thoughts now. I think maybe the German players no longer care about BR3. They just want to show off in BR4-5 all the time. They don’t even consider the problems of G43 and Zh29, just focusing on weakening the SVT38. I wonder if it’s really the case that Germany has a semi-automatic weapon lowered to 3, then they have no reason to request a weakening. Now, the purpose of these actions is probably just to make the Soviet BR3 completely ineffective.
I understand what you mean. Currently, the calls on the forum to weaken SVT have completely overshadowed more reasonable suggestions - such as granting Germany BR3 access to more powerful weapons.
You mentioned the issues of the G41 and G43, which reminded me of the Madsen machine gun from the Soviet Union. That gun had an extremely high recoil when in a squat position, and the bullets could fly into the air. It could only be used when held in place. At that time, being killed by it felt like a great humiliation. It wasn’t until later when the secret forces finally enhanced it that it became a usable weapon.
This example precisely demonstrates that the most straightforward solution is to adjust the weapon data itself.
The design of G41 itself might not be that bad. The fundamental problem lies in the values filled in by DF, which are simply too poor. Just like the Mosin-Nagant rifle, both the original Soviet version and the German advanced engineering corps version have completely different loading speeds. This is sufficient to show that many so-called “strength issues” or “handling issues” are actually caused by unbalanced numerical settings.
The most outrageous thing is the G43. As an upgraded version of the G41, its performance is actually worse than that of the SVT38. This is simply too abstract. The core of the problem lies here: It’s not that the SVT is too powerful; rather, the numerical values of the German semi-automatic models are too weak, and they are too weak to be reasonable.
Therefore, instead of hoping for an unrealistic attempt to weaken the opponent, it would be better to focus on urging DF to re-examine and strengthen the basic data of G41/G43 (such as recoil, accuracy, and loading speed). This is the most fundamental and effective solution.
I just saw you recently. Are you from the Russian forum? I also used to enjoy playing German BR3 because BR4-5 was too intense. Sometimes I didn’t want the fast pace and would switch to BR2-3. I specifically bought almost all (with high strength) advanced squads for a better experience. I have 6 MP41r as well. At least I could form a few assault teams. Eventually, I gave up German BR3 because not everyone has a semi-automatic SVT (Gold Card) G41. In close range, the magazine of the G41 is like a disposable weapon. So the number of German players remaining in BR3 gradually decreased. I also wanted to enhance German BR3 so that more German players could return to BR3. Then I wouldn’t have to spend 10-20 minutes matching in BR3.
Enjoy your BR3 tank that is functionally immune to explosion pacts.
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The trouble is the g41 started the br3’semi auto bracket
Who knows if the Johnson was nerfed when they moved it to br3
Which it should never have been br4
The johnson was moved to br3 not sure if it was nerfed but it made the g41 look worse then it was
The svt38 is far better than the g41
And the garand is fine
It’s balancing ussr the us and Germany
A lot of players just want to power creep Germany to get ahead of the user
No Germany is not a he weakest faction in the game
Ussr
Germany
Us
Japan
Nerfs are as important if not more
In sa rifles magazine is more important then rof
A 3 second reload with 8 bullets
Is not the same as 10 bullets with 2 second reload
You know, when you talk about Japan and Germany - these two countries as the two major powers of the Axis - they were actually capable of producing a bunch of semi-automatic rifles with BR3 ammunition clips. But they were all included in the Golden Card weapons, which are extremely rare. Now, they can’t be purchased normally anymore. Because I spent some money before buying a bunch of them, I was still able to enjoy the same pleasure as with the SVT38. However, ordinary players are very unhappy. Sometimes, the heavy feel of this gun and other things make me think that there must be something wrong with the numbers. This is one of the reasons.
Keep your hands off soviet gear.
Uragan made unusable
PPSH silenced - Cancel. Its photo is real
PPsh-41 box drum nerf
You here make only one thing - one by one nerf a direct side
Well, keep your hands off
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ok list on tech tree br 3 rifle that has a ten shot magazine that does not load with stripper clips the svt 38 is a br4 rifle in br3
hell list one trait of the svt 38 that makes worse than the 40 and thus br3
Recalling all those past events is truly heartbreaking. The Soviet Union was indeed experiencing significant equipment shortages and being pushed back the most. This included the time when they intended to upgrade the rockets with mice and 44-100. The rocket ammunition, as well as the Il-10 rocket ammunition (152mm).
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Just say if there are still people playing BR3 in Germany now. Yesterday, when I teamed up with someone to play the Soviet BR3 mode, it took a very long time. Most likely, everyone had already moved on to BR5.
people play all brs 1 2 3 4 5 of every faction, what are you asking. my point is simp the svt 38 does not belong in b43 it is better than any tech tree br3 rifle of any faction. it needs its reload brought to br3 standards if that is nerfing it with stripper clips or artificially.
Reloads
Br3
Svt 38 2.6
Johnson 3.4
G41 4.8
Type 4
All br3 10 round unified at 3.8 seconds
Br4
Svt 40 2.5
G43 2.3
Zh29 2.1
All br 4 at a 2.3 second
As you can see the svt38 reloads nearly a second faster then the johs on 1 and a half faster then the type 4 and 2.2 faster the the g41. It’s a br4 rifle in br3 sjin
If you really think that BR3 must be a semi-automatic model with bridge loading, then just stick to your own opinion. It’s actually better to get a new semi-automatic for your own gun.
Then I ask you, the MG34 is rated as level 3. Its firing rate is the fastest among all the BR machine guns. I ask you, is this to balance the machine gun or is it necessary to reduce its firing rate to be on par with the firing rates of the other most similar ones? The MG series machine guns are faster than other machine guns. The Blauhain machine gun has such a slow firing rate. Should the German machine guns make a statement first, reduce their firing rate to be the same as his, and be as slow as him? The BR2 ZB26 is also like this. It is called the “Little 422” by the people in the field and has always been clinging to rifles. I ask you, how do you respond to the machine gun?
I choose others. My opinion:
Just increase the Gewehr 41’s reload speed to the level of the Johnson rifle and increase its damage. And maybe slightly increase accuracy. Then it will be fine. Also, give the Germans in TT a sniper version of the Gewehr 41. And no Gewehr 43s on 3BR.
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Why? Could you please give me a reason as to why you are so opposed to G43 or Zh29? After all, they can also be regarded as being on par with VT38 if the damage and accuracy are adjusted appropriately. After all, DF can fill in the values however it wants.
that is the reason the vst 38 is overpowered
the g43 and and zh29 would mean the us/ik allies dont have a weapon good enough
no the jphnson is nood good enough for the g43 or zh29
no the garand is not good enough to face the g43 or zh29
damage unless it goes from tanking a single hit to two hits any change to dam,age in meaningless
unless it goes from semi automatic accuracy to full auto accuracy is meaningless
the only change that would matter is rate of fire unless its rate of fire matches the johnson and is proportionally worse than the garand its not good enough
Reloads
Br3
Svt 38 2.6
Johnson 3.4
G41 4.8
Type 4
All br3 10 round unified at 3.8 seconds
Br4
Svt 40 2.5
G43 2.3
Zh29 2.1
All br 4 at a 2.3 second
so i would welcome moving the g43 at 3.8 second reload at br3 or the zh29 at 3.8 seconds at br3
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