I couldn’t care less whether I win or lose match. I play to have fun. And I won’t be doing something that’s not fun. Deal with it however you want.
If you want people to stop deserting, suggest meaningful and harsher punishments for desertion. 
I tried to do it myself. But it was boycotted by people who are now crying that I’m deserting, lol.
I will definitely keep deserting as long as it’s beneficial to me.
The most infuriating part is this absurd deserter penalty: leaving a match early doesn’t just penalize your earnings for that single game—it slashes your income by 20% for the next two matches as well. All I wanted was to cut my losses and escape a team of deadweight teammates who never bothered to build spawn points, where I alone got more kills than the rest of my squad combined. Yet now I have to suffer reduced rewards across my next two serious, well-played matches. Why should dedicated players have to pay the price for everyone else’s lack of teamwork?To make matters even worse, I get assigned to the defending side in 7 out of every 10 matches, which has completely ruined my gameplay experience. When attackers fail to capture objectives, they simply camp in their safe rear zones and shell our positions from extreme long range with their tanks. None of my anti-tank weapons have the range to reach their positions, leaving me stuck on the defensive, taking fire with no way to retaliate. Even if I manage to hold the line, I only get pitifully low rewards; if we lose, my points get deducted. No matter how things play out, defending players always end up on the losing side.
Defending needs massive buffs thats for sure. Attacking realistically shouldnt be easier
Defending has infinite tickets… that’s a pretty massive advantage if you play to that strength.
I completely trust you on that one, especially since you used to say you only quit to test new maps when you also obviously quit for other reasons and state that you desert because you can.
Checks out.
What now? Is this a problem now as well?
And you have no idea what you wrote two posts ago.
But you dont.
Like you actually care about derailing.
Ehhh… No. 
Before the merge, I used to desert basically every losing match. Because that used to be the fastest way how to grind. In just few months, I completed all German campaigns. And I was quite open about it. If you want to do some in-depth research, those posts on this forum are still there somewhere.
As for those recent desertions, most of them are related to testing new maps.
Then there are isolated cases where, usually at the start of the game, someone took a vehicle slot right when I wanted a Kugelblitz or something else. That’s why most of those desertions happen at the beginning of the match.
And the one shown in your screenshot, which happened in the middle of the match, was literally caused by Windows crashing. I had to reinstall them. That’s why I didn’t play for a few days afterwards.
I have no reason to lie to you. I just don’t consider individual desertions to be a problem. And neither do the developers; that’s why they’re no longer sanctioned even with that gimmick punishment.
I never said that I have never deserted. That’s simply not the case.
I only wanted desertion to be punished more severely. That way, people who systematically desert to bypass and influence the MM RNG would no longer be able to do so. I am very consistent with this. And that’s what I was always saying.
What now?
Would be easier if you would open your profile again so peopel can actually look at your posts.
Concercning the screenshot…
Only two of them were Axis matches and I think one wasnt related to the Kugelblitz but to Tunisia.
The others were Allies and Soviets.
You either lie or you dont even know the matches you desert (anymore).
You mean conveniently the ones you do?
Understandable.
Well, you certainly never stated that you are a systematic deserter.
Like how else should you call it when someone quits 35% of the time, admitted to quit to grind faster, and quit four matches in a row?
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Ergo getting rally’s up and APC’s, appropriate defenses and creating a buffer.
That’s simply false. I was very open with this before the merge. That’s why I knew all the benefits. In fact, I was actually complaining how it makes no sense for people to actually stay in losing matches thanks to victory bonus.
Your memory is failing you.
But we eventually got at least bonus for top player in loser team.
And I am definitely not systematic desertion nowadays. I couldn’t care whether my team is losing or winning. Otherwise I would desert every losing match. Nor do I care whether I am put into downtier or uptier. Nor do I care about maps, otherwise I would quit all Tunisian maps or conquests.
I don’t remember the exact reason for every single case. But it was mostly because the vehicle slot was blocked.
Then why didn’t I desert on most of the Tunisian maps, heh?
Anyway. It’s really funny. Because you were one of the people who didn’t want punishments for desertion. Yet you’re really teased up about me deserting.
Again, doesnt work well when the Kugelblitz is only for Germany and your 2/8 desertion matches were German matches.
Before or after you quit nine matches on a row on the 21st? Before or after you quit almost 35% of your entire matches in total?
Ehh No, but unlike you, I didnt mass desert and then complain about deserting like some lunatic.
Dunno, why do you quit so much as Allies and USSR when you only wanted to test matches and play Kugelblitz?
Well because you complain about systematic deserts while you quit nine matches in a row while calling everyone else a systematic deserter. You are a quitter out of habit.
It is indeed very funny.
I didn’t know Germany is the only faction with vehicles.
Well, I can keep doing it thanks to you. 
I appreciate it.
Anyway, I’m getting bored with this debate. I know I’m the only person on this forum for whom you’re willing to derail topics. And with whom you’re willing to engage in endless, meaningless discussions. It really flatters me. I hope you won’t be missing me.
I didnt know you could also quit due to the Kugeblitz slot in Allied and Soviet matches which was one of the two reasons you stated for your recent quitting (the other being testing a map).
Yeah Never take accountability. Always blame someone else.
Well, all the other plebs got sent back to the asylum or got their meds.
I didn’t know you can’t read the whole sentence.
I play Enlisted mainly for vehicles. If they weren’t in that game, I wouldn’t be interested in it at all.
The Kugelblitz was the most specific you told so far, not like the map thing made much sense either but you to work with what you get. So I am sorry for focusing on the few times you are specific and not just be vague.
Quitting because you didnt get a vehicle at the beginning is also a logical reason. Quiting because you cant wait for two minutes to get into a vehicle.
But I guess this is a very Adam thought so nevermind, but cleary not a selfish reason.
Well, I appreciate that, thanks to you, I don’t have to wait those 2 minutes.
As I said:
I actually wanted it to be impossible. I tried. But people were against it. The rules apply equally to everyone. And current rules are in favor of deserters. That’s what you literally wanted.
while i don’t condone most of what our philospher stands for,
and certainly most of his outlandish … inscriptions.
he does have a point on desertion.
as you showed, around 50% of games are deserted because the desertions punishments in places are ridicolous and doesn’t stop snowballing games caused by deserters. which would then cause even more deserters.
while it is clownish behavior to leave because doesn’t even himself believe in what he preaches,
( like veekay using non historical accurate loadouts yet demands for everyone else to do so )
he is right as there are 0 downsides to do so.
… the 20% only affects a specific demographic which we do not know for certain.
… but there’s at least couple of desertions in every match.
as far tackling desertion goes.
it’s a multitude of problems no doubt.
but as you and joe advise, incentivizing with more xps and “goodies” seems a rather half assed solution to me.
because you can’t really claim about one self fun, if you are actively ruining the sport of the game for others. why even bother to boot up the game if you are going to leave most of the games you’re supposed to be playing?
… how come your self individuals should be taken into consideration more than the others that just want to have a normal game without players who leave at the first sign of resistance or just because they don’t like how X / Y turned out.
( edit. i think i found the solutions. Pves would solve desertion. trust 
… except if you care about pvp. on second thoughts, the dumbness of the AI can thrive on it’s own as far frustration goes… )
A simple functional map and mode preference function would do wonders… If I personally leave conquests before the start timer even ends, I certainly am not the only one doing so 
Until real measures to satisfy most of the playerbase are in place (if ever), I doubt punishing more would really help the game. Certainly there would be less desertion… but also less players.
In any case, devs tried, with the punishing trope.
And failed.
They can double down in something that doesn’t work, the playerbase preferring penalties over a bad time,
Or try something else, new.
Yeah? When? I haven’t noticed any punishments.
Maybe for you. But definitely not for everyone. There are so many reasons why desertion is beneficial, convenient, and comfortable.
As long as this continues, nothing will change when it comes to desertion.
Btw. I guess you really do not want play Tunisia against real players anymore. Since that was least populated campaign pre merge. Back to one sided matches we go.
that’s a recorring theme with most things around here though.
doesn’t mean there’s no room for a large improvement into refining it further rather than leave them untouched to rot or do a 180.
… and we both know what we are talking about that doesn’t necessarily just involve ““punishments””.
we can’t gift xps eithers.
isn’t what the competition is all about?.
maybe.
but just makes other content much more less played.
and idk, but playing normandy 24/7 doesn’t seem a fun prospect.
which the dishonest player will leave and wont prevent further individuals from deserting even with these features implemented.
I am consistent with what I am saying for years, buddy.
Continuing the discussion from Better booster for losing: