Giving Germany a new Br 3 or 2 SMG, the MP-28 with 50 rounds

well,

those are different though.

the UK lewis was chambered in 303. for commonwealth munitions and subquentially mounted on some vehicles during the early period of the war, and progressively phased out to rear units.

it’s not just a rename.


… as far gameplay goes though, british lewis is actually different.


stats are different and both are better in some, worse in others aspects.

most likely was done due to the constant " lazy copy and paste " that they have been getting since the merge.

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The thing is, they’re not though.

The Russian ones were just rechambered British guns (not the most difficult thing to do on MGs, both Russian and British ammunition is rimmed and have roughly the same dimensions, it’s fairly simple to do on the Vickers Mk I for example to switch back and forth). Persumably they’re from the batch of 10k guns bought from the UK during WW1, or followup civil war supply.

The visual difference is not even mechanical, too, it’s just a couple of changes/upgrades on the buttstock, and the bipod is just removed on the other one (but the stats indicate that it has one anyway), both coexisted in British service.

In fact, the differences between this upgrade and the default variant is so insignificant that the British themselves didn’t have seperate names for the two. They didn’t bother even.

Unofficially the Royal Armouries today refers them as Mk I and Mk I* respectively, but this was never a official service designation, there was just a Mk I.

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SIG1920, Finland

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100rd smg in tech tree… OK because it’s for japan :joy: can’t make this shit up

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MP28 with a 32 rounder would perform better than MP40 - which would be the real BR1 gun in this regard.

Anyways lets not summon Adamnpee, he’ll call powercreep on us ( rightfully so of course)

Top BR2 SMGs need less power, not more.

Really hope to see this in game one day, love using the 50rnd MP28 in the JP TT (and Lanchester 50 ofc).

Would be cool to also get Fallschirmjager customization available for regular German squads too, to do an early war Fallschirmjager loadout.

luftwaffe-fallschirmjäger-paratrooper-with-mp28ii

I agree with @TJLockie-live though, would likely need to be BR3 same as Lanchester 50. JP MP28 has lower damage and pretty bad damage dropoff over short distance as a tradeoff + to prop up the sparse JP tech tree. Even then its relatively high RPM + 50 round mag is still pretty cooked to use in a downtier. From using the Lanchester 50 I’d say BR3 would be very balanced, regular MP28 stats + 50rnd mag would just be too much for BR2 imo. No reason to artifically nerf it either just to force it to be at BR2, would ruin what could be an otherwise fun addition.

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That guy looks driped out :cold_face:

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Nope, there is no MP 28 in the Japanese tech tree. It’s a SIG 1920, they just misnamed it

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Hate to tell you this buddy, but I’m looking at an MP28 chambered in 7.65mm in the Japanese tech tree at BR 2 right now.

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Oh hey, look, a post from two years ago where I proved that it’s not an MP 28…

But just in case you don’t want to read a bunch:
SIG 1920:
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MP 28:
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In case you don’t know what differences you’re looking for, the SIG doesn’t have a fire selector, the MP 28 does. The magwell’s are different with different mag release buttons. More details are in my post I linked.

And now the “MP 28” from Japan’s TT:


Notice any details that completely disqualify this from being an MP 28?!

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You do realise that if someone else manufactures a weapon it can be slightly different but still the same weapon. They are re chambered so it’s possible that they could have been modified, things added or removed ect. Doesn’t make the weapon not what it is.

No, no, he is correct.
The MP28 (7.65) is actually a lot closer to the SIG1920 than the MP28.

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They all look the same bar a few minor details

They’re both based on the MP 18, of course they look alike. So by your standard we may as well call all of them MP 18’s…

I have shown you what the difference is, I even provided the proof. Please look at it.

or assault rifles by your standards :man_shrugging:

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Something something Japanese Ofenrohr… something something German KE7…

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I would love for this gun to be in the RT to give Germany a high capacity smg because they don’t really have much, but as far as I can tell the only way they had 50 round magazines was if they came from a Lanchester, making it a pretty rare circumstance

I know some would say who cares we have prototypes anyway but I’ve always felt the RT should be standard issue. Just a peeve of mine. If it were me I’d make it an event prize

welll.

the Ke7 and the RZKB 54/1 were made prior to the Lewis 303

Or upgrade the rof for the FNAB-43.
And if Germany needs anther SMG it should definitely be at BR5.