Give Fedorov rifle 25 real ROF

https://forum.enlisted.net/t/give-fedorov-25-more-or-less-real-rate-of-fire/

This successful vote poll have a real documents but no one carres. That’s sad because now FR25 is wasted thing

Bring it a real 600 rof as Fedorov write about it, what a you guys doing?

First ask for sources and after you received it - well, nothing

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I would agree that the Fedorov rifle is a complete pile of junk as it is in the game. A rate of fire of 600 would make it far more controllable, unfortunately, they ask for documentation to change it, and when you actually come up with documentation, they just ignore it. :rofl: As long as it remains as it is, I will never use it. It’s not bad if you use it as a one shot semi auto, but complete garbage in fully auto mode. Fortunately, I play far more with the Allies and Germans. :joy:

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what is the current ROF?

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1100 or something. Literally taken from nowhere stats

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WOAH

so thats what kiyo was talking abt lol

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The best thing that could have happend honestly.

Ever since the fedorov was changed to that stupid rof a lot of USSR mains stopped whinning about the FG fire rate beeing to high to compete with as they had learned about the drawbacks of exessive rof.

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Its just can’t be controlled with this rof and recoil. Any time you press a left mouse button you are watch a roof

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It’s fast enough with so much recoil that in fully auto mode I have to aim for the feet so I can hope to maybe get one bullet in the foot, one in the stomach and one in the head before every other round shoots over their heads :rofl:. The only way I can use it is if its in single shot semi auto mode, then it’s not bad, but not good for BR5 in that mode.

Actually, FR25 has 24/3 Recoil with 1100 RoF against FG42-1 with 19/8 with 990
Vertical recoil is 1.26 times worse, but horizontal is 2.66 times better. RoF is 1.11 times higher
So, it is 1.4 times harder to control vertical and 2.44 times easier to control horizont. If you can’t control it, you are lowskill, and you have no right to whine about FG42-1

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People can read that, especially when writing in latin.

Good way to get your posts closed.

Now for real though, people agree that this gun is very hard to control - I however would argue that since it has a 25 round magazine, which is a benefit over other SFRs its more than a fair drawback.

That being said, its a rare event gun and as such could get the 5 extra rounds without being game breaking.

Technically when giving it lower RPM than TT AVT, it could also be a fair drawback while honouring historical accuracy. Even very slow RPM wouldn’t turn the gun into trash since it one hit downs.

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Yeah, he a little stupid bcs he can write like this:
9| gEKaPg u 9l rJly/7blu u go6uBal-Ocb /7oJlHoro BaHa Ha c|ↄoPyMe

Its harder to translate)
Only oldman and maybe native speaker can read this or AI

UPD: even grok cant translate this)
hehe

9| gEKaPg u 9l rJly/7blu u go6uBal-Ocb /7oJlHoro BaHa Ha c|ↄoPyMe - changed text
I’m Deckard, I’m stupid and I’m trying to get myself permanently banned on the forum - translate
Я Декард и Я глупый и добиваюсь полного бана на форуме - This is an original sentence that has been translated.
It’s an old crypto cipher from the 90s-00s.

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To be fair, calling someone lowskill is also an insult, so yeah understandable reaction.

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You’ve probably only seen the tip of the iceberg of test subject Deckard’s behavior. He wanted to ban people over political stuff (me, Rendeyl), he tried to disband the squad with Walther A115 because historically they committed crimes, he ran a contest but never paid out the prizes to FNFAL. Overall, I’ve always felt sorry for him personally, even though he tried to get me banned. I even considered making a ‘DECKARDGATE’ thread, but after seeing how people here treat him, I actually felt too bad to expose him publicly any further on this forum.

if u miss this topic, i highly recomend read it :smile:

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Indeed sir, looks like I forgot this sir Churchill statement
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That’s a false equivalence. You’re twisting the argument.

We’re talking about the actual historical rate of fire of the Fedorov—the game should prioritize historical accuracy first.
But you keep avoiding history and only talking about whether it’s manageable or balanced.

For a WWII-based game, we must get the historical details right first, fully and accurately.
Only then can we discuss balance—not use balance as an excuse to rewrite historical facts.

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My comment was entirely unrelated to history or balance…

All I said is that due to the change to the ROF USSR mains had to learn the downsides of exessive ROF on a weapon which then in turn reduced complaints about the FG…

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Wait, I just remembered—didn’t the FG 42 have its rate of fire changed from 750 to 900 RPM at one point?
Someone dug up some historical archive documents, and they adjusted it really quickly after that.
Did that actually happen?

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Ah, I see. I must have misunderstood.

The current state of Soviet BR 5 is that we don’t need any new weapons. We just need the historical rate of fire restored.

As for the Fedorov’s absurdly high 1000+ RPM in the game—where did that even come from?

There have been plenty of cases in the game where they first restore historical performance, and if it becomes too strong, they just adjust its BR accordingly.

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The first FG was changed to 900 rpm but the document for that was already long known on the forum before the devs actually acted on it.

Yeah, it should’ve been common knowledge that the AVT’s historical ROF is 750 RPM.
The devs only cared about fixing German weapons, but the Fedorov and AVT still haven’t been changed. That’s exactly why Soviet players are complaining.

Once you learn your weapons actually have much higher historical rates of fire, but the devs just won’t fix them, you can’t help but envy the FG’s proper ROF.

They got their historical accuracy, while we’re stuck suffering from unhistorical, underperforming guns.
What are we supposed to do?