For the love of god, please build rally points!

Just now I played a match in Moscow and we barely won because for most of the game not a single rally point was on the map but mine.
Very rarely there was a second one but it lasted 1 minute before getting destroyed.
Its not like they didn’t have engineers either because they were building other stuff.

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me and others have been saying that since 1 year, but neither will the playerbase every change, nor does DF understand the problem. ive seen employees/helpers playing in games and ragequitting after 5 min. a look at their stats: 0 rally points build. its just stupid.

the only solution to that problem that i see is to let players build up to 3 rallies per player (with faction limit of 10, as currently).

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During My last Game on Berlín (as soviets, something weird)

I Saw 8 rally points

8

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In my experience in a lot of games there will either be nobody building rallies or it will be multiple engineers competing for rally spots, building them right next to one another, just clumping them all into one specific area which obviously isn’t very effective

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Apparently a surprising majority of people who play this game feel like 15 seconds to build a rally point is an unbearable amount of time not spent running and shooting

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It seems that there are too many beer lovers for the Soviet side, well, or children. Because everything is fine for the German side, they build always 3-4 rallys at ones. (Based on my experience over the last four hours)

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This :point_up_2:

That’s why for a while I’ve been suggesting to add an option to order my AI engineer to build stuff for me (I don’t have to be an engineer). This may increase the number of rally points.

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This is literally what it should have been originally. Variability of orders to your squad. But we can’t even order an engineer to build something if there isn’t a second one.

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Why make AI useful if it can be a canon fodder?

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I have an idea to address the rally point problem let engineer twos build 2 rally points

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There is an upsetting shortage of players who are willing to contribute and help their team, even though it really isn’t that hard. They seem to be only focused on getting kills.

The HUGE flaw with that behavior is that it hurts the team. Lots of kills ≠ victories. Sniping in the back, tanking on a hill, sitting in a plane the whole match, does not help the team and usually will result in a loss, which also hurts them due to lost XP and therefore slower progression.

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Thats really frustrating part… I may add that there should be a penalty for those that have engeers and do not build any relay point. It would motivate those lazy b… to build them, because points for helping your team with relay points aren’t good enaugh for them it seems. I have playerd multiple times where I am the only one building them or with one other person we build them.

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I get it, but it would still be the same players doing all the work.

Nah, try this:
1.Barewire a place in circle or triangle
2.Put the rally in center
3.Prepare Molotovs,WP and flamethrower
4.Place ammo box for the flamethrower
5.wait them spawn
6.kill them

Usually that force them to build rally, if it doesn’t work, kill them for fun

Yet somehow, if you dare inadvertently press X to send your squad somewhere while a construction of yours is even remotely close to your line of sight, they promptly rush to dismantle everything in seconds.

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Yeah, I used to be very annoyed by this sabotage work of my own squad. But now it doesn’t seem to be so bad, at least I haven’t encountered it lately.

yeah and now the few good players in this game can actually carry bot teams easily. the sad truth is, its easier to win if you build 3 good rallies and 9 bots spawn on them and attack the objective than it is with 9 real players who dont build rallies and just tard around doing nothing to help the team win.

ofc id rather have all bots build rallies on their own, but DF can not improve the AI well enough for that, so we can forget about that.

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Its funny cos @tommyZZM big action mod the AI put up rallys everywhere. Its quite good

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To fix this entire problem we need to address the XP problem in this game if XP wasn’t so scarce and everyone wasn’t so focused on leveling up this game wouldn’t be so bad but with how the game is set up you’re forced to level up or suffer

then he needs to tell them to implement that. im afraid its because he placed specific marks on the maps and they just react instead of doing actual computation. in that case some helpers should just go over all the maps in the game and spam rally point spots everywhere, where it makes sense.
every objective should have 5-6 rallies build at all times to have fun and dynamic games and to prevent grey zone noobing.